XPost: comp.os.linux.advocacy   
   From: stuff@stuff.com   
      
   On Thu, 10 Feb 2011 15:02:53 +0000, Gordon wrote:   
      
   > On Thu, 10 Feb 2011 14:36:33 +0000, SomeBloke wrote:   
   >   
   >> Looking at the pie chart 59.2% of these infections are Trojans. I   
   >> haven't come across ANY AV apps that will protect users from their own   
   >> stupidity. Things like "my friend sent me a link to a YouTube video and   
   >> now my computer runs like a pig in treacle" are common in my   
   >> experience.   
   >>   
   >> The problem of course is that most (all?) Windows users run as   
   >> administrators so their systems are wide open to every form of nasty. I   
   >> have long since given up on persuading anyone that logging on as a   
   >> limited rights user is the way to make things difficult for Trojans,   
   >> Worms etc to run. You only need to hit your head against a brick wall   
   >> so many times before you decide the pain is too much.   
   >>   
   >> This is why I like Linux. You want to install or uninstall anything or   
   >> make a system wide change? Then enter your root password. This makes   
   >> you think, "Do I really want to do this?".   
   >>   
   >> Microsoft’s UAC just doesn't hack it in my opinion. Too easily bypassed   
   >> or even turned off. Completely misses the point of security.   
   >   
   > I quite agree. The thing is that when a user gets a new Windows machine,   
   > the system AUTOMATICALLY makes the first User account created an   
   > Administrator! And because people are so used to running as an   
   > administrator because XP had no real means of doing the MS equivalent of   
   > "sudo" they don't bother to change it - and the other thing is that   
   > there is no mWARNING either that a) they don't need to run as an   
   > administrator on a daily vasis and b) that doing so is a security risk.   
   > The thing I find amazing is the numbers of posts on the MS Answers Forum   
   > where the one and only User account has been corrupted (how does a User   
   > account become corrupted for goodness sake) and because the built-in   
   > Admin account is disabled by default (good!) they can't access their   
   > computer.   
   > Why do people put up with this crap in the first place?   
      
   User accounts being compromised are a common problem on Windows. You can   
   login with a temporary profile then create a new one (again with   
   Administrator privileges) and then attempt to recover the first one. Not   
   always easy or possible.   
      
   "Where's my email, favourites, background etc?". System Restore can fix   
   it sometimes. But then System Restore for a corrupt profile? Give me a   
   break.   
      
   Just another day in 'Windows-World'.   
      
      
      
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