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   From: clavicus.vile@oblivion.org   
      
   "Gordon"  wrote in message   
   news:8rid0tF493U2@mid.individual.net...   
   > On Thu, 10 Feb 2011 14:36:33 +0000, SomeBloke wrote:   
   >   
   >> Looking at the pie chart 59.2% of these infections are Trojans. I   
   >> haven't come across ANY AV apps that will protect users from their own   
   >> stupidity. Things like "my friend sent me a link to a YouTube video and   
   >> now my computer runs like a pig in treacle" are common in my experience.   
   >>   
   >> The problem of course is that most (all?) Windows users run as   
   >> administrators so their systems are wide open to every form of nasty. I   
   >> have long since given up on persuading anyone that logging on as a   
   >> limited rights user is the way to make things difficult for Trojans,   
   >> Worms etc to run. You only need to hit your head against a brick wall so   
   >> many times before you decide the pain is too much.   
   >>   
   >> This is why I like Linux. You want to install or uninstall anything or   
   >> make a system wide change? Then enter your root password. This makes you   
   >> think, "Do I really want to do this?".   
   >>   
   >> Microsoft's UAC just doesn't hack it in my opinion. Too easily bypassed   
   >> or even turned off. Completely misses the point of security.   
   >   
   > I quite agree. The thing is that when a user gets a new Windows machine,   
   > the system AUTOMATICALLY makes the first User account created an   
   > Administrator!   
      
   My Xandros netbook must have do the same thing.   When I learned how to   
   bring up the terminal screen with Ctrl+Alt+T, typing in sudo Synaptic didn't   
   ask for a password.   
      
   > And because people are so used to running as an   
   > administrator because XP had no real means of doing the MS equivalent of   
   > "sudo" they don't bother to change it - and the other thing is that there   
   > is no mWARNING either that a) they don't need to run as an administrator   
   > on a daily vasis and b) that doing so is a security risk.   
      
   Any of the files I wanted to download with Syanptic warned me they were   
   security risks.   Use a different depository you say?   Can't.    Got to   
   stick with the ones who actually have the files I need.   
      
   > The thing I find amazing is the numbers of posts on the MS Answers Forum   
   > where the one and only User account has been corrupted (how does a User   
   > account become corrupted for goodness sake) and because the built-in   
   > Admin account is disabled by default (good!) they can't access their   
   > computer.   
   > Why do people put up with this crap in the first place?   
      
   How does Linux let you avoid it?   The distro dance?   
      
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