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   Alan to Joel W. Crump   
   Re: Sorry, Mac Fans: Linux Is Actually t   
   24 Aug 25 15:53:56   
   
   XPost: comp.os.linux.advocacy, comp.sys.mac.advocacy   
   From: nuh-uh@nope.com   
      
   On 2025-08-24 15:47, Joel W. Crump wrote:   
   > On 8/24/2025 6:24 PM, Lawrence D’Oliveiro wrote:   
   >   
   >>> The Apple-centric software *largely* sucks (although selected apps are   
   >>> great, Microsoft Office and Adobe's stuff are better than on Windows,   
   >>> imo), the Unix features are incomplete.   
   >>   
   >> There was a thing called “the Unix philosophy”. Though perhaps we should   
   >> nowadays call it “the *nix philosophy”.   
   >>   
   >> One of its principles is “mechanism, not policy”. The OS kernel and core   
   >> userland should, as far as possible, not prejudge the ways in which   
   >> users,   
   >> developers and admins may want to deploy the system; let them configure   
   >> it, and build higher custom layers on top of it, to do whatever they   
   >> want.   
   >>   
   >> Consider how *nix display servers like X11, and now Wayland, conform to   
   >> this philosophy, by being separate modular, replaceable layers that   
   >> operate entirely in userland. And they are not GUIs in themselves: the   
   >> actual GUIs are additional higher layers on top of them, that are modular   
   >> and replaceable in themselves.   
   >>   
   >> Consider how Apple breaks this philosophy, by inextricably binding its   
   >> particular conception of a GUI tightly into its OS kernel.   
   >   
   >   
   > It's a minor concern, ultimately, I do like the modular nature of Unix   
   > and GNU/Linux in terms of creating a GUI, it's terrific, but Microsoft   
   > and Apple haven't failed to be as advanced as such, there's nothing to   
   > say there are limitations on what can be developed for them.   
   >   
      
   Do you want to buy a car where you can pick which engine you use?   
      
   Have you actually created your own GUI?   
      
   --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05   
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