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   From: vallor@cultnix.org   
      
   On Sun, 24 Aug 2025 15:53:56 -0700, Alan  wrote in   
   <108g564$3215v$9@dont-email.me>:   
      
   > On 2025-08-24 15:47, Joel W. Crump wrote:   
   >> On 8/24/2025 6:24 PM, Lawrence D’Oliveiro wrote:   
   >>   
   >>>> The Apple-centric software *largely* sucks (although selected apps are   
   >>>> great, Microsoft Office and Adobe's stuff are better than on Windows,   
   >>>> imo), the Unix features are incomplete.   
   >>>   
   >>> There was a thing called “the Unix philosophy”. Though perhaps we   
   should   
   >>> nowadays call it “the *nix philosophy”.   
   >>>   
   >>> One of its principles is “mechanism, not policy”. The OS kernel and   
   core   
   >>> userland should, as far as possible, not prejudge the ways in which   
   >>> users,   
   >>> developers and admins may want to deploy the system; let them configure   
   >>> it, and build higher custom layers on top of it, to do whatever they   
   >>> want.   
   >>>   
   >>> Consider how *nix display servers like X11, and now Wayland, conform to   
   >>> this philosophy, by being separate modular, replaceable layers that   
   >>> operate entirely in userland. And they are not GUIs in themselves: the   
   >>> actual GUIs are additional higher layers on top of them, that are modular   
   >>> and replaceable in themselves.   
   >>>   
   >>> Consider how Apple breaks this philosophy, by inextricably binding its   
   >>> particular conception of a GUI tightly into its OS kernel.   
   >>   
   >>   
   >> It's a minor concern, ultimately, I do like the modular nature of Unix   
   >> and GNU/Linux in terms of creating a GUI, it's terrific, but Microsoft   
   >> and Apple haven't failed to be as advanced as such, there's nothing to   
   >> say there are limitations on what can be developed for them.   
   >>   
   >   
   > Do you want to buy a car where you can pick which engine you use?   
   >   
   > Have you actually created your own GUI?   
      
   Terrible analogy.   
      
   My car's NAV system has different themes to chose from.  Almost   
   nobody will use them, but some people do.   
      
   Choice is good.   
      
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