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   vallor to Alan   
   Re: Sorry, Mac Fans: Linux Is Actually t   
   25 Aug 25 06:19:05   
   
   XPost: comp.os.linux.advocacy, comp.sys.mac.advocacy   
   From: vallor@cultnix.org   
      
   On Sun, 24 Aug 2025 21:51:56 -0700, Alan  wrote in   
   <108gq5c$37ilo$1@dont-email.me>:   
      
   > On 2025-08-24 21:36, vallor wrote:   
   >> On Sun, 24 Aug 2025 18:12:53 -0400, "Joel W. Crump"    
   >> wrote in :   
   >>   
   >>> On 8/24/2025 5:31 PM, Alan wrote:   
   >>>   
   >>>>>> More specifically, if you're "not wired for Apple", because you   
   >>>>>> replaced it with Windows, what makes you more "wired" for that?   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>> Windows is just WYSIWYG, Mac is quirky.  Linux requires comprehension,   
   >>>>> which I have, but I'm not disliking using Windows again, for now.  I   
   >>>>> haven't made my decision about replacing it with Linux on this mini PC.   
   >>>>   
   >>>> Unresponsive.   
   >>>>   
   >>>> In what way is Windows any more WYSIWYG than macOS?   
   >>>   
   >>>   
   >>> I could be out of date, I guess, having used macOS during Snow Leopard,   
   >>> but then again it hasn't really changed fundamentally, it's   
   >>> counterintuitive to me.  They are on a lower intellectual level than   
   >>> Microsoft, and definitely the GNU/Linux realm.  People who click with   
   >>> macOS are willing to pay for the privilege, but damn it's pricey, the   
   >>> hardware options not competitive with Windows devices.   
   >>   
   >> Well, we bought a Mac Studio, which is a low-end UNIX(r) workstation,   
   >> not comparable to a Windows desktop.   
   >>   
   >> However, for $4K more, I bought this Linux workstation from System76,   
   >> and it runs rings around the Mac for my workloads.   
   >   
   > I'm sorry.   
   >   
   > Are you saying you spent $4K more than you spend on a Mac Studio...   
      
   Yes.   
      
   Serious workstations tend to cuddle up to, if not surpass, 5 figures.   
      
   Entry level will be about half that.   
      
   https://system76.com/threadripper/   
      
   >   
   > ...or that you spent $4K on another machine?   
      
   No.   
      
      
   >>   
   >> When it comes to computers, I like to buy one that will last for a while,   
   >> giving it some future-proofing.  For example, my Linux workstation has   
   >> two 10Gbase-T Ethernet ports, one of which I use to talk to my NAS   
   >> at 10Gbits/s.   
   >   
   > And what do you do with the other one?   
      
   I was going to use the NPU features for AI, but the python library   
   didn't support it yet.  I need to investigate how that is going,   
   it's been a few months.   
      
   Mrs. Vallor uses the Mac when she isn't using her Linux workstation.  We're   
   about to move my scanner to the Mac for use with document management...we   
   have a ton of documents, and it's time to "go paperless".   
      
   I also ssh into it to check the portability of software I write -- which   
   isn't very often, but it's nice to have for that.   
      
   >>   
   >> Hugh posted a link that you should read about "boots theory":   
   >>   
   >> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boots_theory   
   >>   
   >> Going back to the Mac, I think Thunderbolt supports 40Gbits/s connections.   
   >> (Someone please correct me if I'm wrong -- it may be faster now.)   
   >   
   > I think 40Gbits/s is correct.   
      
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