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   From: recscuba_google@huntzinger.com   
      
   On 8/25/25 00:36, vallor wrote:   
   > On Sun, 24 Aug 2025 18:12:53 -0400, "Joel W. Crump"    
   > wrote in :   
   >   
   >> On 8/24/2025 5:31 PM, Alan wrote:   
   >>   
   >>>>> More specifically, if you're "not wired for Apple", because you   
   >>>>> replaced it with Windows, what makes you more "wired" for that?   
   >>>>   
   >>>> Windows is just WYSIWYG, Mac is quirky.  Linux requires comprehension,   
   >>>> which I have, but I'm not disliking using Windows again, for now.  I   
   >>>> haven't made my decision about replacing it with Linux on this mini PC.   
   >>>   
   >>> Unresponsive.   
   >>>   
   >>> In what way is Windows any more WYSIWYG than macOS?   
   >>   
   >>   
   >> I could be out of date, I guess, having used macOS during Snow Leopard,   
   >> but then again it hasn't really changed fundamentally, it's   
   >> counterintuitive to me.  They are on a lower intellectual level than   
   >> Microsoft, and definitely the GNU/Linux realm.  People who click with   
   >> macOS are willing to pay for the privilege, but damn it's pricey, the   
   >> hardware options not competitive with Windows devices.   
   >   
   > Well, we bought a Mac Studio, which is a low-end UNIX(r) workstation,   
   > not comparable to a Windows desktop.   
   >   
   > However, for $4K more, I bought this Linux workstation from System76,   
   > and it runs rings around the Mac for my workloads.   
   >   
   > When it comes to computers, I like to buy one that will last for a while,   
   > giving it some future-proofing.  For example, my Linux workstation has   
   > two 10Gbase-T Ethernet ports, one of which I use to talk to my NAS   
   > at 10Gbits/s.   
   >   
   > Hugh posted a link that you should read about "boots theory":   
   >   
   > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boots_theory   
      
   Yup; it was a good narrative for understanding lifecycle costs.   
      
      
   > Going back to the Mac, I think Thunderbolt supports 40Gbits/s connections.   
   > (Someone please correct me if I'm wrong -- it may be faster now.)   
      
   It is now 80Gbit/sec Thunderbolt 5, as of the 2024 "M4" generation Macs.   
      
   I have a TB4 NVMe external that I've tested; I should give it another   
   test run on an M4 Mac to see if it improves.  It presently clocks in at   
   ~24Gbit/sec, which is more than adequate for realtime editing of my   
   4K/60Hz capable camera as well as being future-proofed for 8K/60Hz.   
      
   -hh   
      
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