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   From: crude@sausa.ge   
      
   On 2025-08-25 8:45 p.m., Lawrence D’Oliveiro wrote:   
   > On Mon, 25 Aug 2025 13:13:07 -0400, -hh wrote:   
   >   
   >> Case in point, I traded-in a 2017 Mac laptop last year for a $150   
   >> credit...that's a 7 year useful life.  In contrast, I also had a 2016   
   >> Dell laptop that went tits-up in 2019 with a swollen battery, and its   
   >> replacement died in 2021 with a failed USB-C port ...   
   >   
   > I have had a range of laptops, both new and second-hand. I think there was   
   > Dell and Compaq among them. None of them suffered the kind of faults you   
   > mention.   
      
   But it definitely happens. I am aware of Razer having significant issues   
   with the batteries in their gaming laptops, and HP has the problem too   
   considering they seem to use the cheapest of materials in everything   
   they produce. I don't recall with certainty, but I believe the   
   replacement battery I purchased for my MSI laptop had the issue as well.   
      
   > Speaking of batteries, Apple is gluing them in now, isn’t it? So you   
   > couldn’t even replace them if you wanted to.   
      
   I don't believe that the glue is that strong. I don't believe that Apple   
   makes it that much of a challenge to have the battery replaced. It's   
   more than a user should have to do, but it's not that bad.   
      
   >> Because in case you hadn't noticed, laptops passed the point of being   
   >> the "good enough" for general office productivity a good decade ago, and   
   >> the Enterprise IT support strategy was that instead of trying to do any   
   >> upgrades to them, to just image & replace entire machines.   
   >   
   > What happened to the market addressed by the old Mac Pro? Seems Apple has   
   > given up on that altogether.   
      
   They're still around:    
      
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