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   From: crude@sausa.ge   
      
   On 2025-08-25 9:52 p.m., Lawrence D’Oliveiro wrote:   
   > On Mon, 25 Aug 2025 09:27:15 -0400, CrudeSausage wrote:   
   >   
   >> On 2025-08-24 11:39 p.m., Lawrence D’Oliveiro wrote:   
   >>>   
   >>> On Sun, 24 Aug 2025 23:10:47 -0400, Joel W. Crump wrote:   
   >>>   
   >>>> On 8/24/2025 10:35 PM, Lawrence D’Oliveiro wrote:   
   >>>>   
   >>>>>> I'm OK with their backdoor, it's not like Linux distros don't have   
   >>>>>> them.   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>> Which Linux distros have “backdoors”?   
   >>>>   
   >>>> I shouldn't have to tell you, if you were aware, paying attention to   
   >>>> the clues.   
   >>>   
   >>> It’s all Open Source -- remember, “Many Eyes Make All Bugs Shallow”.   
   >>> What do you think the people have missed?   
   >>   
   >> There was a backdoor in the xz utils that went undetected for a while.   
   >   
   > “For a while” being only about a month -- not long enough for it to be   
   > included in any production distros, I don’t think   
   > .   
      
   A month is still a while.   
      
   >> Also, I recall that the NSA got involved in Linux development for a bit   
   >> and provided some utilities which were perceived to be potential   
   >> backdoors.   
   >   
   > The entire code of SELinux came from them. It’s been checked over and over   
   > by independent experts looking for anything resembling a backdoor. It’s   
   > been part of the mainline kernel for about a quarter century now.   
      
   It's possible that it has since been verified, but I recall it being a   
   controversy around 2010-2015.   
      
   >> Either way, it doesn't matter which operating system you use as long as   
   >> the Intel Management Engine is part of their line of processors as is   
   >> the Platform Security Processor for AMD. With that kind of backdoor in   
   >> the machine, you're just as insecure in Linux as you would be in   
   >> Windows.   
   >   
   > Apparently not. My laptop vendor says they’ve disabled the IME. If they   
   > can do it, others can.   
      
   Which laptop vendor is this? I believe that ThinkPenguin disables it,   
   but System76 might as well.   
      
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