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   CrudeSausage to Alan   
   Re: Sorry, Mac Fans: Linux Is Actually t   
   26 Aug 25 19:34:32   
   
   XPost: comp.os.linux.advocacy, comp.sys.mac.advocacy   
   From: crude@sausa.ge   
      
   On 2025-08-26 6:27 p.m., Alan wrote:   
   > On 2025-08-25 12:45, CrudeSausage wrote:   
   >> On 2025-08-25 9:58 a.m., Alan wrote:   
   >>> On 2025-08-25 05:56, CrudeSausage wrote:   
   >>>> On 2025-08-24 6:57 p.m., Alan wrote:   
   >>>>> On 2025-08-24 15:53, Joel W. Crump wrote:   
   >>>>>> On 8/24/2025 6:27 PM, Alan wrote:   
   >>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>> More specifically, if you're "not wired for Apple", because   
   >>>>>>>>>>> you replaced it with Windows, what makes you more "wired" for   
   >>>>>>>>>>> that?   
   >>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>> Windows is just WYSIWYG, Mac is quirky.  Linux requires   
   >>>>>>>>>> comprehension, which I have, but I'm not disliking using   
   >>>>>>>>>> Windows again, for now.  I haven't made my decision about   
   >>>>>>>>>> replacing it with Linux on this mini PC.   
   >>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>> Unresponsive.   
   >>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>> In what way is Windows any more WYSIWYG than macOS?   
   >>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>> I could be out of date, I guess, having used macOS during Snow   
   >>>>>>>> Leopard, but then again it hasn't really changed fundamentally,   
   >>>>>>>> it's counterintuitive to me.  They are on a lower intellectual   
   >>>>>>>> level than Microsoft, and definitely the GNU/Linux realm.   
   >>>>>>>> People who click with macOS are willing to pay for the   
   >>>>>>>> privilege, but damn it's pricey, the hardware options not   
   >>>>>>>> competitive with Windows devices.   
   >>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>> IN WHAT SPECIFIC WAYS?   
   >>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>> HOW was it supposedly "counterintuitive"?   
   >>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>> See: I can list some ways that Windows as it stands TODAY is   
   >>>>>>> downright user hostile.   
   >>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>> 1. Windows 10 created a new application called "Settings"...   
   >>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>> ...but you still needed to use the Control Panel for some things.   
   >>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>> And that is still true (albeit to a lesser degree) of Windows 11.   
   >>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>> 2. How do you change the scrolling direction of the mouse wheel   
   >>>>>>> (assuming your mouse has one).   
   >>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>> I could go on, but believe me there are others that astound me   
   >>>>>>> all the time.   
   >>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>> And overall, the fluidity--the look and feel--of the interface is   
   >>>>>>> just terrible! The pointer doesn't move as smoothly. The   
   >>>>>>> rendering of... ...everything in the UI looks terrible.   
   >>>>>>   
   >>>>>>   
   >>>>>> I hear you, with the way Windows settings have evolved, not being   
   >>>>>> entirely coherent, but File Explorer is light years better than   
   >>>>>> Finder as I experienced it under Snow Leopard.  Edge is better   
   >>>>>> than Safari, AFAIK.  Apple is just the duller minds of the industry.   
   >>>>> So, you're comparing which version of File Explorer to an OS that   
   >>>>> came out 16 years ago; Windows 7?   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>> HOW is "Edge better than Safari"? How can you possibly say "AFAIK"   
   >>>>> about it?   
   >>>>   
   >>>> For one, Edge uses the Chromium engine which provides for better   
   >>>> compatibility with websites.   
   >>>   
   >>> Who says so? I've yet to see a single problem on any site I've used.   
   >>   
   >> I've read developers complaining about it but I'm with you, I have yet   
   >> to experience a problem. I don't have a Mac anymore, but I have no   
   >> doubt that if I purchased one again, there would be no issue.   
   >>   
   >>>> It also provides some very decent AI functionality that is   
   >>>> completely absent from Safari.   
   >>>   
   >>> You mean it forces you to use Copilot.   
   >>   
   >> No, it doesn't.   
   > Interesting.   
   >   
   > What "AI functionality" is there in Edge that isn't tied to using Copilot?   
   >   
   > I'm genuinely asking.   
      
   What I'm saying is that you are not obligated to use any of the AI   
   functionality. It's tied to search, and you can use AI to produce some   
   nice images related to a description you write, but it is otherwise no   
   better than any other browser.   
      
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