XPost: comp.os.linux.advocacy, comp.sys.mac.advocacy   
   From: crude@sausa.ge   
      
   On 2025-08-26 6:40 p.m., Alan wrote:   
   > On 2025-08-25 02:39, Joel W. Crump wrote:   
   >> On 8/25/2025 12:36 AM, vallor wrote:   
   >>   
   >>>> I could be out of date, I guess, having used macOS during Snow Leopard,   
   >>>> but then again it hasn't really changed fundamentally, it's   
   >>>> counterintuitive to me.  They are on a lower intellectual level than   
   >>>> Microsoft, and definitely the GNU/Linux realm.  People who click with   
   >>>> macOS are willing to pay for the privilege, but damn it's pricey, the   
   >>>> hardware options not competitive with Windows devices.   
   >>>   
   >>> Well, we bought a Mac Studio, which is a low-end UNIX(r) workstation,   
   >>> not comparable to a Windows desktop.   
   >>>   
   >>> However, for $4K more, I bought this Linux workstation from System76,   
   >>> and it runs rings around the Mac for my workloads.   
   >>>   
   >>> When it comes to computers, I like to buy one that will last for a   
   >>> while,   
   >>> giving it some future-proofing.  For example, my Linux workstation has   
   >>> two 10Gbase-T Ethernet ports, one of which I use to talk to my NAS   
   >>> at 10Gbits/s.   
   >>>   
   >>> Hugh posted a link that you should read about "boots theory":   
   >>>   
   >>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boots_theory   
   >>   
   >>   
   >> I accept that people are willing to pay Apple's prices because they   
   >> like Apple's products, but it isn't even close comparing said prices   
   >> to the competition.   
   > Really?   
   >   
   > Show me a Windows laptop with:   
   >   
   > A 1TB SSD   
      
   Most of them.   
      
   > 16GB of RAM   
      
   That's a minimum for PC laptops.   
      
   > A 2560x1664 display   
      
   Mid-range gaming laptops have the two above and this as well.   
      
   > And which gets Geekbench scores of 3,157 (single core) and 12,020   
   > (multi-core).   
   >   
   > Oh, and will run literally all DAY on a single charge.   
      
   Admittedly, the gaming laptops won't. However, gaming laptops do more   
   than a Mac laptop can anyway by the mere fact that they can game. If you   
   want to compare apples to apples, the Surface and similar machines get   
   similar performance to the Macs as well as similar battery life.   
   Admittedly though, I's rather a Mac at that point.   
      
   > And show me what it costs.   
   >   
   > My MacBook Air (M3) cost me $2,199 (plus tax of course)   
   >   
   > See just how much you'd "save"...   
      
   I can show you comparables if you tell me whether the price you set is   
   USD or CAD.   
      
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