XPost: comp.os.linux.advocacy, comp.sys.mac.advocacy   
   From: nuh-uh@nope.com   
      
   On 2025-08-26 19:34, CrudeSausage wrote:   
   > On 2025-08-26 6:27 p.m., Alan wrote:   
   >> On 2025-08-25 12:45, CrudeSausage wrote:   
   >>> On 2025-08-25 9:58 a.m., Alan wrote:   
   >>>> On 2025-08-25 05:56, CrudeSausage wrote:   
   >>>>> On 2025-08-24 6:57 p.m., Alan wrote:   
   >>>>>> On 2025-08-24 15:53, Joel W. Crump wrote:   
   >>>>>>> On 8/24/2025 6:27 PM, Alan wrote:   
   >>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>> More specifically, if you're "not wired for Apple", because   
   >>>>>>>>>>>> you replaced it with Windows, what makes you more "wired"   
   >>>>>>>>>>>> for that?   
   >>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>> Windows is just WYSIWYG, Mac is quirky.  Linux requires   
   >>>>>>>>>>> comprehension, which I have, but I'm not disliking using   
   >>>>>>>>>>> Windows again, for now.  I haven't made my decision about   
   >>>>>>>>>>> replacing it with Linux on this mini PC.   
   >>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>> Unresponsive.   
   >>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>> In what way is Windows any more WYSIWYG than macOS?   
   >>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>> I could be out of date, I guess, having used macOS during Snow   
   >>>>>>>>> Leopard, but then again it hasn't really changed fundamentally,   
   >>>>>>>>> it's counterintuitive to me.  They are on a lower intellectual   
   >>>>>>>>> level than Microsoft, and definitely the GNU/Linux realm.   
   >>>>>>>>> People who click with macOS are willing to pay for the   
   >>>>>>>>> privilege, but damn it's pricey, the hardware options not   
   >>>>>>>>> competitive with Windows devices.   
   >>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>> IN WHAT SPECIFIC WAYS?   
   >>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>> HOW was it supposedly "counterintuitive"?   
   >>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>> See: I can list some ways that Windows as it stands TODAY is   
   >>>>>>>> downright user hostile.   
   >>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>> 1. Windows 10 created a new application called "Settings"...   
   >>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>> ...but you still needed to use the Control Panel for some things.   
   >>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>> And that is still true (albeit to a lesser degree) of Windows 11.   
   >>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>> 2. How do you change the scrolling direction of the mouse wheel   
   >>>>>>>> (assuming your mouse has one).   
   >>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>> I could go on, but believe me there are others that astound me   
   >>>>>>>> all the time.   
   >>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>> And overall, the fluidity--the look and feel--of the interface   
   >>>>>>>> is just terrible! The pointer doesn't move as smoothly. The   
   >>>>>>>> rendering of... ...everything in the UI looks terrible.   
   >>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>> I hear you, with the way Windows settings have evolved, not being   
   >>>>>>> entirely coherent, but File Explorer is light years better than   
   >>>>>>> Finder as I experienced it under Snow Leopard.  Edge is better   
   >>>>>>> than Safari, AFAIK.  Apple is just the duller minds of the industry.   
   >>>>>> So, you're comparing which version of File Explorer to an OS that   
   >>>>>> came out 16 years ago; Windows 7?   
   >>>>>>   
   >>>>>> HOW is "Edge better than Safari"? How can you possibly say "AFAIK"   
   >>>>>> about it?   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>> For one, Edge uses the Chromium engine which provides for better   
   >>>>> compatibility with websites.   
   >>>>   
   >>>> Who says so? I've yet to see a single problem on any site I've used.   
   >>>   
   >>> I've read developers complaining about it but I'm with you, I have   
   >>> yet to experience a problem. I don't have a Mac anymore, but I have   
   >>> no doubt that if I purchased one again, there would be no issue.   
   >>>   
   >>>>> It also provides some very decent AI functionality that is   
   >>>>> completely absent from Safari.   
   >>>>   
   >>>> You mean it forces you to use Copilot.   
   >>>   
   >>> No, it doesn't.   
   >> Interesting.   
   >>   
   >> What "AI functionality" is there in Edge that isn't tied to using   
   >> Copilot?   
   >>   
   >> I'm genuinely asking.   
   >   
   > What I'm saying is that you are not obligated to use any of the AI   
   > functionality. It's tied to search, and you can use AI to produce some   
   > nice images related to a description you write, but it is otherwise no   
   > better than any other browser.   
   And what I'm saying is that if you WANT to use AI functionality in Edge,   
   it is going to be Microsoft's AI you use.   
      
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