XPost: comp.os.linux.advocacy, comp.sys.mac.advocacy   
   From: nuh-uh@nope.com   
      
   On 2025-08-26 19:37, CrudeSausage wrote:   
   > On 2025-08-26 6:40 p.m., Alan wrote:   
   >> On 2025-08-25 02:39, Joel W. Crump wrote:   
   >>> On 8/25/2025 12:36 AM, vallor wrote:   
   >>>   
   >>>>> I could be out of date, I guess, having used macOS during Snow   
   >>>>> Leopard,   
   >>>>> but then again it hasn't really changed fundamentally, it's   
   >>>>> counterintuitive to me.  They are on a lower intellectual level than   
   >>>>> Microsoft, and definitely the GNU/Linux realm.  People who click with   
   >>>>> macOS are willing to pay for the privilege, but damn it's pricey, the   
   >>>>> hardware options not competitive with Windows devices.   
   >>>>   
   >>>> Well, we bought a Mac Studio, which is a low-end UNIX(r) workstation,   
   >>>> not comparable to a Windows desktop.   
   >>>>   
   >>>> However, for $4K more, I bought this Linux workstation from System76,   
   >>>> and it runs rings around the Mac for my workloads.   
   >>>>   
   >>>> When it comes to computers, I like to buy one that will last for a   
   >>>> while,   
   >>>> giving it some future-proofing.  For example, my Linux workstation has   
   >>>> two 10Gbase-T Ethernet ports, one of which I use to talk to my NAS   
   >>>> at 10Gbits/s.   
   >>>>   
   >>>> Hugh posted a link that you should read about "boots theory":   
   >>>>   
   >>>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boots_theory   
   >>>   
   >>>   
   >>> I accept that people are willing to pay Apple's prices because they   
   >>> like Apple's products, but it isn't even close comparing said prices   
   >>> to the competition.   
   >> Really?   
   >>   
   >> Show me a Windows laptop with:   
   >>   
   >> A 1TB SSD   
   >   
   > Most of them.   
   >   
   >> 16GB of RAM   
   >   
   > That's a minimum for PC laptops.   
   >   
   >> A 2560x1664 display   
   >   
   > Mid-range gaming laptops have the two above and this as well.   
   >   
   >> And which gets Geekbench scores of 3,157 (single core) and 12,020   
   >> (multi-core).   
   >>   
   >> Oh, and will run literally all DAY on a single charge.   
   >   
   > Admittedly, the gaming laptops won't. However, gaming laptops do more   
   > than a Mac laptop can anyway by the mere fact that they can game. If you   
   > want to compare apples to apples, the Surface and similar machines get   
   > similar performance to the Macs as well as similar battery life.   
   > Admittedly though, I's rather a Mac at that point.   
   >   
   >> And show me what it costs.   
   >>   
   >> My MacBook Air (M3) cost me $2,199 (plus tax of course)   
   >>   
   >> See just how much you'd "save"...   
   >   
   > I can show you comparables if you tell me whether the price you set is   
   > USD or CAD.   
   Sorry, that's CAD.   
      
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