XPost: comp.os.linux.advocacy, comp.sys.mac.advocacy
From: nuh-uh@nope.com
On 2025-08-26 23:13, vallor wrote:
> On Sun, 24 Aug 2025 22:12:52 -0700, Alan wrote in
> <108grck$37ilo$2@dont-email.me>:
>
>> On 2025-08-24 21:11, vallor wrote:
>>> On Sun, 24 Aug 2025 11:23:05 -0700, Alan wrote in
>>> <108flaa$2vcpq$2@dont-email.me>:
>>>
>>>> On 2025-08-24 02:44, Joel W. Crump wrote:
>>>>> On 8/24/2025 5:32 AM, Lawrence D’Oliveiro wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>> But no, buying a fucking Mac is not the answer. It's too
>>>>>>> expensive.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> And lacking in expandability and versatility. All Apple’s machines
>>>>>> are basically just glorified laptops now.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> And the OS may have licensed the “Unix” trademark, but it doesn’t
>>>>>> work the way people expect traditional “Unix” systems to work.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Ask one of the original Bell Labs crew, Ken “Mr Unix” Thompson: he
>>>>>> has given up on Apple and switched to Linux.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Right, it's a freakin' joke, if you ask me, there are *selected*
>>>>> functions of macOS software that outshine the competition, but the
>>>>> typical home user is better off with something else, because of the
>>>>> ridiculous expense of the Apple platform, even if they like macOS,
>>>>> it's just throwing money down the toilet. Maybe they have money to
>>>>> burn, I could understand that, but it would never click with me even
>>>>> if I did have a billion dollars, because my brain doesn't work that
>>>>> way to prefer Apple's quirkware.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>> "Ridiculous expense"? Please.
>>>>
>>>> Yes: my MacBook Air (M3) cost me $2,200CAD, but based on my
>>>> experience,
>>>> this is a computer I can easily use for the next 5 years.
>>>>
>>>> That's $37 a month.
>>>>
>>>> Even if a decent laptop with Linux cost me a third of that (and I very
>>>> much doubt you can find one as good for that number), the difference
>>>> is about $25/month.
>>>>
>>>> That's hardly a huge barrier to entry.
>>>>
>>>> But please elaborate:
>>>>
>>>> What makes Apple's technology so "quirky" in your estimation?
>>>
>>> They put the window buttons on the wrong side of the titlebar.
>>>
>>> ;)
>>>
>>> Seriously, though, there's nothing wrong with higher end Macs for what
>>> you get. I wouldn't wish a Mac mini on my worst enemy, though.
>>
>> And why is that?
>
> Because both Mac mini's we've owned over the years have been slugs.
Really?
Which Mac Minis were those, and what did they cost?
>
>>
>>
>>> Someone said Macs weren't extendable -- but they are, with Thunderbolt,
>>> which is basically "external PCIE".
>>
>> "Basically"? It is exactly and literally external PCIe.
>>
>>
>>> Same guy said Macs "weren't really Unix" (paraphrased), but has never
>>> explained what he means by that, and I daresay he's never used a Mac
>>> command line -- which is bash, in a POSIX+ environment.
>>>
>>> There's something to be said about people with no knowledge or
>>> experience with a system making claims about it. I'll not say it
>>> personally, but leave it to others to decide.
>>>
>>> But having said all that: Linux is still a better environment for _my_
>>> needs, which includes a recent installation of a document management
>>> system, using docker. (Do Macs have docker? Do they even have
>>> containers? Beats me.)
>> I don't know what "docker" is, and what in Linux context are
>> "containers"?
>
> Containers are a kind of lightweight virtual space that still runs on
> the same kernel as the rest of the host. They can have their own
> uid's,gid's, network addresses, chroots, etc.
>
> Docker is a way to run things easily within containers. It's all the rage
> for lightweight virtualized setups.
>
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Docker_(software)
>
Oh, you mean something that explicitly exists for macOS?
"Install Docker Desktop on Mac"
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