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   From: crude@sausa.ge   
      
   On 2025-08-30 11:36 a.m., chrisv wrote:   
   > Tyrone wrote:   
   >   
   >> Joel W. Crump wrote:   
   >>>   
   >>> people who run Linux tend to be more motivated.   
   >>   
   >> Because they have to be.   
   >   
   > Yes, because Windows doesn't require any thinking.  It comes   
   > pre-installed and has all the industry support.   
      
   This is a fact that no one can deny. Even if someone decides beforehand   
   that he wants a Linux laptop, he will be hard pressed to find one in a   
   local store. These machines are exclusively available to online   
   purchasers. I can't think of a walk-in store which sells machines with   
   Linux pre-installed. I imagine that a lot of the reason that is is   
   because they are unwilling or don't have staff which would be able to   
   help customers who inevitably face issues.   
      
   >> Desktop Linux mainly appeals to young geeks with   
   >> little/no money. Nothing wrong with that. I used to be one.   
   >>   
   >> But that was 25 years ago.  Now I am older and I have money. Because I have   
   a   
   >> career, not just "a job".   
   >   
   > It's got nothing to do with money.  It's got everything to do with   
   > people already having experience with Windows.  And, yes, all the   
   > industry support does result in a somewhat slicker, prettier   
   > experience.   
      
   It's definitely more polished, but only subjectively so. Some will say   
   that KDE is prettier than Windows 11, others will state the opposite. I   
   prefer the customization options of KDE by a mile. Nevertheless, there   
   are certain things that are more difficult to do in Linux, and it feels   
   like just about anything causes suspend to stop working properly.   
      
   >> I am no longer interested in "compiling the latest   
   >> kernel".  I am perfectly fine with paying someone else to do that for me.   
   >> That's why I moved on from Linux to Windows to Macs.   
   >>   
   >> Because I have more important things to do.   
   >   
   > An insignificant fraction of Linux users compile their kernel.  If   
   > they compile anything at all, it's because they are a software   
   > developer.   
   >   
   >> Even you - after you trashed your Linux box due to complete technical   
   >> ineptitude - are now running Windows 11. See how nice it is to just buy a   
   >> computer and have it work without jumping through hoops?   
   >   
   > Other than needing to install it yourself, it requires no more, and   
   > possibly less, hoops than Windows does.  Many users don't require much   
   > more than a Web browser, and Linux is more private and secure.  See   
   > how nice it is to have a computer and have it work without having your   
   > data harvested?   
      
   Private and secure is quite meaningless nowadays. The people who will   
   spy on us are at the government level and they laugh when told that   
   people use encryption, a VPN or use Linux. The fact that most processors   
   contain code allowing a governmental third-party access to our machines   
   means that we are all better off just using whichever operating system   
   we like most and not expecting that we are safe if they choose to   
   monitor us. We can protect ourselves against Russian assholes looking to   
   inject malware to encrypt our personal data (using Linux or simply   
   enabling functionality in Windows which protects those folders), but we   
   won't be able to hide our activities for long.   
      
      
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