XPost: comp.os.linux.advocacy   
   From: vallor@cultnix.org   
      
   On Wed, 10 Sep 2025 17:10:09 -0400, "Joel W. Crump"    
   wrote in :   
      
   > On 9/10/2025 4:30 PM, vallor wrote:   
   >> On Wed, 10 Sep 2025 15:43:33 -0400, "Joel W. Crump"   
   >>    
   >> wrote in :   
   >>> On 9/10/2025 3:38 PM, Lawrence D’Oliveiro wrote:   
   >>>> On Wed, 10 Sep 2025 18:20:05 -0000 (UTC), candycanearter07 wrote:   
   >>>>   
   >>>>> Until [Microsoft] start forcing [AI] down your throat harder..   
   >>>>   
   >>>> That would be interesting, because providing an AI service isn’t   
   >>>> exactly free. They have to find some mechanism for charging for it,   
   >>>> which means, as long as users refuse to pay, there is no way to force   
   >>>> them to accept it.   
   >>>   
   >>> The AI stuff somehow alleviates the bloat.   
   >>   
   >> Only in cloud-cuckoo land, weirdo.   
   >   
   >   
   > Look, I haven't cracked the code myself to know precisely what it's   
   > doing, I've observed Process Explorer and the behavior of my low-end   
   > device.  Something about Copilot takes away the shittiness of using   
   > Win11, when I last had it.   
   >   
   >   
   >>> Don't ask me what they specifically did,   
   >>   
   >> Why not?  You just said it "alleviates the bloat".   
   >   
   >   
   > I said it "somehow" does that, not intending to have analyzed it.   
   >   
   >   
   >>> in 24H2, but this mini PC is a full desktop system.   
   >>   
   >> Yeah?  And the mini-ITX machine downstairs is a mini-workstation,   
   >> for just a bit more than you paid.   
   >>   
   >> _[/root]_(root@buzz)🔴_   
   >> # inxi -Cxx CPU:   
   >>    Info: 20-core (8-mt/12-st) model: Intel Core i7-14700F bits: 64   
   >>      type: MST AMCP arch: Raptor Lake rev: 1 cache: L1: 1.8 MiB L2: 28   
   >>      MiB L3: 33 MiB   
   >>    Speed (MHz): avg: 819 high: 1100 min/max: 800/5300:5400:4200 cores:   
   >>    1: 800   
   >>      2: 800 3: 1038 4: 800 5: 800 6: 800 7: 800 8: 800 9: 1100 10: 800   
   >>      11: 800 12: 800 13: 800 14: 800 15: 800 16: 800 17: 800 18: 800   
   >>      19: 800 20: 800 21: 800 22: 800 23: 800 24: 800 25: 800 26: 800   
   >>      27: 800 28: 800 bogomips: 118272   
   >>    Flags: avx avx2 ht lm nx pae sse sse2 sse3 sse4_1 sse4_2 ssse3 vmx   
   >>   
   >> _[/root]_(root@buzz)🔴_   
   >> # inxi -G Graphics:   
   >>    Device-1: NVIDIA AD104 [GeForce RTX 4070 SUPER] driver: nvidia v:   
   >>    550.144.03   
   >> [...]   
   >   
   >   
   > That had to cost more than "a bit more" than $200 ...   
      
   $200!?   
      
   Does that include the cost of monitor, keyboard, mouse, and HOTAS?   
      
   I'm not sure, but I don't think you'll be gaming much with   
   a $200 crapbox, unless you stream it from the cloud ( = more money).   
      
   Probably can't run Fooocus either.  Tsk, tsk.   
      
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