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   Paul to Joel W. Crump   
   Re: Mightgrowsoft Removes Even More Acco   
   11 Oct 25 00:01:02   
   
   XPost: comp.os.linux.advocacy, alt.comp.os.windows-11   
   From: nospam@needed.invalid   
      
   On Fri, 10/10/2025 6:17 PM, Joel W. Crump wrote:   
   > On 10/7/2025 7:26 PM, Lawrence D’Oliveiro wrote:   
   >   
   >> To all those Windows hackers who are so proud of their ability to   
   >> install Windows 11 on setups that Microsoft doesn’t officially support   
   >> -- tough luck. The company keeps on tightening the screws with every   
   >> new Windows 11 build   
   >> :   
   >>   
   >>      In a new update released to the Dev channel of the Windows Insider   
   >>      Preview program yesterday (build number 26220.6772), Microsoft   
   >>      announced it was "removing known mechanisms for creating a local   
   >>      account in the Windows Setup experience (OOBE)." Microsoft says   
   >>      that these workarounds "inadvertently skip critical setup screens,   
   >>      potentially causing users to exit OOBE with a device that is not   
   >>      fully configured for use."   
   >>   
   >> However,   
   >>   
   >>      It's unclear what "critical setup screens" Microsoft is referring   
   >>      to; when using the workarounds to create a local account, the   
   >>      Windows setup assistant still shows you all the screens you need   
   >>      for creating an account and a password, plus toggling a few basic   
   >>      privacy settings. Signing in with a Microsoft account does add   
   >>      multiple screens to this process though—these screens will   
   attempt   
   >>      to sell you Microsoft 365 and Xbox Game Pass subscriptions, and to   
   >>      opt you into features like the data-scraping Windows Recall on PCs   
   >>      that support it. I would not describe any of these as "critical"   
   >>      from a user's perspective, but my priorities are not Microsoft's   
   >>      priorities.   
   >>   
   >> Yup, “critical” as in “critical to Microsoft’s revenue-generation   
   >> operations”. The fact that you paid them money for Windows itself just   
   >> isn’t enough any more.   
   >   
   >   
   > I guess I could understand if people want the option to use a local   
   account.  Not really, but I get why they would at least.  But MS has a fair   
   point about how it also circumvents other setup screens, all this crap where   
   people modify a commercial OS    
   doesn't make a lot of sense, it's perversity at the end of the day.  If you   
   want that kind of control, why in God's name would you even use *Microsoft's*   
   OS?!  This is why I happily log in with my MS account.   
   >   
      
   An Operating System, is a layer present on a computer as an   
   "enabler for user-executed programs", a kind of Executive.   
      
   It's not an end unto itself. It is not a FlappyBirds/Netflix/DisneyPlus Box.   
   It's not a Commercial HitchARide And Screw You End User box either.   
      
   *******   
      
   The reason for *starting* with a Local Account after installation, is   
   so you control the name used on your profile folder.   
      
   I want to be C:\Users\Paul and I want to control that directly, not be   
   sleigh of hand. The Microsoft way, I present an email address such   
   as CrazyClown@gmail.com and Microsoft carves off the first five   
   characters of the email, and my profile on first usage becomes   
      
      C:\Users\crazy    # And I'm crazy forever   
      
   which is "not attractive" as I didn't have the control. If my email   
   was PaulWatson@gmail.com, my profile becomes   
      
      C:\Users\paulw   
      
   which may not entirely please me either.   
      
   Microsoft could have had their cake, plus a big mug of beer,   
   if the OOBE box went like this:   
      
      email address:             CrazyClown@gmail.com   
      preferred profile name:    Paul   
      
   and then we would both win. But that's too too simple, now isn't it.   
      
   "Why meet people half way, when you can punch, slap, and kick them"   
      
   When Microsoft removed the "X" in the upper right corner of Metro.Apps   
   in Windows 8.0, they put the "X" back in Windows 8.1 . See ? They   
   are capable of learning from mistakes. One of the favorite moments of   
   that era, was a video taken of a mature dude sitting in front of a   
   Microsoft provided product evaluation computer, and when he is   
   stuck in the Metro.App without the "X" in the corner, the dude   
   has this "deer in the headlights" moment. He just... doesn't   
   know what to do. Just stares at the screen and stares at the screen.   
   Too funny.   
      
       Paul   
      
   --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05   
    * Origin: you cannot sedate... all the things you hate (1:229/2)   

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