XPost: comp.os.linux.advocacy, alt.comp.os.windows-11
From: candycanearter07@candycanearter07.nomail.afraid
Joel W. Crump wrote at 07:27 this Saturday (GMT):
> On 10/11/2025 12:01 AM, Paul wrote:
>> On Fri, 10/10/2025 6:17 PM, Joel W. Crump wrote:
>>> On 10/7/2025 7:26 PM, Lawrence D’Oliveiro wrote:
>>>
>>>> To all those Windows hackers who are so proud of their ability to
>>>> install Windows 11 on setups that Microsoft doesn’t officially support
>>>> -- tough luck. The company keeps on tightening the screws with every
>>>> new Windows 11 build
>>>> :
>>>>
>>>> In a new update released to the Dev channel of the Windows
Insider
>>>> Preview program yesterday (build number 26220.6772), Microsoft
>>>> announced it was "removing known mechanisms for creating a local
>>>> account in the Windows Setup experience (OOBE)." Microsoft says
>>>> that these workarounds "inadvertently skip critical setup
screens,
>>>> potentially causing users to exit OOBE with a device that is not
>>>> fully configured for use."
>>>>
>>>> However,
>>>>
>>>> It's unclear what "critical setup screens" Microsoft is
referring
>>>> to; when using the workarounds to create a local account, the
>>>> Windows setup assistant still shows you all the screens you need
>>>> for creating an account and a password, plus toggling a few
basic
>>>> privacy settings. Signing in with a Microsoft account does add
>>>> multiple screens to this process though—these screens will
attempt
>>>> to sell you Microsoft 365 and Xbox Game Pass subscriptions, and
to
>>>> opt you into features like the data-scraping Windows Recall on
PCs
>>>> that support it. I would not describe any of these as "critical"
>>>> from a user's perspective, but my priorities are not Microsoft's
>>>> priorities.
>>>>
>>>> Yup, “critical” as in “critical to Microsoft’s revenue-generation
>>>> operations”. The fact that you paid them money for Windows itself just
>>>> isn’t enough any more.
>>>
>>> I guess I could understand if people want the option to use a local
account. Not really, but I get why they would at least. But MS has a fair
point about how it also circumvents other setup screens, all this crap where
people modify a commercial
OS doesn't make a lot of sense, it's perversity at the end of the day. If
you want that kind of control, why in God's name would you even use
*Microsoft's* OS?! This is why I happily log in with my MS account.
>>
>> An Operating System, is a layer present on a computer as an
>> "enabler for user-executed programs", a kind of Executive.
>>
>> It's not an end unto itself. It is not a FlappyBirds/Netflix/DisneyPlus Box.
>> It's not a Commercial HitchARide And Screw You End User box either.
>>
>> *******
>>
>> The reason for *starting* with a Local Account after installation, is
>> so you control the name used on your profile folder.
>>
>> I want to be C:\Users\Paul and I want to control that directly, not be
>> sleigh of hand. The Microsoft way, I present an email address such
>> as CrazyClown@gmail.com and Microsoft carves off the first five
>> characters of the email, and my profile on first usage becomes
>>
>> C:\Users\crazy # And I'm crazy forever
>>
>> which is "not attractive" as I didn't have the control. If my email
>> was PaulWatson@gmail.com, my profile becomes
>>
>> C:\Users\paulw
>>
>> which may not entirely please me either.
>>
>> Microsoft could have had their cake, plus a big mug of beer,
>> if the OOBE box went like this:
>>
>> email address: CrazyClown@gmail.com
>> preferred profile name: Paul
>>
>> and then we would both win. But that's too too simple, now isn't it.
>
>
> Ah, I too noticed that my account name was rather arbitrary. But then
> again it's just pixels on a screen, it works, so I just let it be. The
> OCD-ness about that seems unnecessary, from my point of view.
The profile name does matter to me somewhat, just because it is going to
appear in a lot of places (basically every file path your files point
to). I'd be upset if I couldn't set it at setup, especially since its
way harder to change down the line since everything is referencing the
old paths and you have to manually fix every single one.
>> "Why meet people half way, when you can punch, slap, and kick them"
>>
>> When Microsoft removed the "X" in the upper right corner of Metro.Apps
>> in Windows 8.0, they put the "X" back in Windows 8.1 . See ? They
>> are capable of learning from mistakes. One of the favorite moments of
>> that era, was a video taken of a mature dude sitting in front of a
>> Microsoft provided product evaluation computer, and when he is
>> stuck in the Metro.App without the "X" in the corner, the dude
>> has this "deer in the headlights" moment. He just... doesn't
>> know what to do. Just stares at the screen and stares at the screen.
>> Too funny.
Do you have the video on hand?
> I just like to have the thing work. Cooperating with its needs does
> that for me.
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