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   From: brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com   
      
   On Nov 27, 2025 at 9:41:22 PM MST, "Lawrence D´Oliveiro" wrote   
   <10gb95i$22jnn$1@dont-email.me>:   
      
   > On 28 Nov 2025 04:23:22 GMT, Brock McNuggets wrote:   
   >   
   >> On Nov 27, 2025 at 5:23:14 PM MST, "Lawrence D´Oliveiro" wrote   
   >> <10gaq1i$1trhb$1@dont-email.me>:   
   >>   
   >>> On 27 Nov 2025 23:54:22 GMT, Brock McNuggets wrote:   
   >>>   
   >>>> They are giving their users more capabilities. I have no issue   
   >>>> with this.   
   >>>   
   >>> Capabilities they cannot invent natively to their platform, so they   
   >>> have to copy from Linux.   
   >>   
   >> Why would they reinvent open source?   
   >   
   > Because it would then be something they could own, and profit from.   
      
   Apple profits quite nicely from what they offer. Using open source allows them   
   to make it cheaper. And if the goal is to offer the ability to do stuff on   
   Linux, why re-invent the wheel at major expense and not get it as good? It   
   would be a horrible business decision.   
   >   
   > Copying and redistributing GPL code, in particular (like Linux), as   
   > you may know, means that they must make the source code available to   
   > their users. That also includes any modifications they may make to   
   > that code.   
      
   They provide the VM. You can run Linux in it. Cool. And? You have yet to say   
   why this is bad and ignored how it can be good.   
   >   
   > You really think that companies who guard their “intellectual   
   > property” as jealously as Microsoft and Apple do, would willingly   
   > accede to such a requirement, if they had a choice?   
      
   You want then to recreate Linux from scratch... an exact duplicate that allows   
   you to do the same, but not use the same code? That is daft.   
   >   
   > Why do you think both companies copied so much BSD code to begin with,   
   > which has no such “copyleft” requirement? But that isn’t enough any   
   > more.   
      
   Copied? Apple has a BSD underpinning, at least to some extent. They have a LOT   
   of open source in macOS.   
   >   
   >> What percent of macOS / Win users do you think use desktop Linux?   
   >   
   > The question is, what percentage do they feel the need to attract   
   > to their platforms, that they have no choice about doing this?   
      
   What percent of macOS / Win users do you think use desktop Linux?   
      
   You keep dodging this and trying to change the topic. Bottom line -- you know   
   the percentage is very low... though there are enough people where it makes   
   sense to have some compatibility.   
      
   You have no real point here, and show you do not really get the concept of   
   open source. Nothing wrong with using it. That is what it is made for!   
      
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