XPost: comp.os.linux.advocacy   
   From: brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com   
      
   On Nov 28, 2025 at 2:29:42 PM MST, "Lawrence D´Oliveiro" wrote   
   <10gd486$2ptvt$1@dont-email.me>:   
      
   > On 28 Nov 2025 15:52:41 GMT, Brock McNuggets wrote:   
   >   
   >> Apple profits quite nicely from what they offer.   
   >   
   > So why do they feel the need to offer more -- and get it from an   
   > outside source, at that?   
   >   
   >> Using open source allows them to make it cheaper.   
   >   
   > Since when does Apple make things cheaper?   
      
   You don't think that open source makes things cheaper for them than   
   reinventing LINUX itself???   
      
   LOL!   
      
   You have a very low view of Linux.   
      
   >> They provide the VM. You can run Linux in it. Cool. And?   
   >   
   > And they make a big deal out of some kind of “lightweight VM” which is   
   > really just the usual Linux containerization capability.   
      
   Where are they making this big deal?   
   >   
   >> You want then to recreate Linux from scratch...   
   >   
   > Why would they need to copy it at all?   
      
   They don't. That is the point. They can have a VM and let people use Linux   
   itself instead of recreating it. Daft to try!   
      
   > Why can’t they come up with   
   > something better?   
      
   What do you think is better at emulating Linux than Linux?   
      
   > Why do you think they have to offer something   
   > Linux-compatible at all?   
      
   Why not? If there is a need for it then it is good. Why are you against open   
   source being used?   
   >   
   > Is the market demanding that, do you think?   
      
   Some small number want it. Sure. So?   
      
   Just as some small number of people prefer desktop Linux. Not many, but great   
   that it exists.   
      
   Are you against that, too?   
   >   
   >>> The question is, what percentage do they feel the need to attract   
   >>> to their platforms, that they have no choice about doing this?   
   >>   
   >> What percent of macOS / Win users do you think use desktop Linux?   
   >>   
   >> You keep dodging this and trying to change the topic. Bottom line --   
   >> you know the percentage is very low...   
   >   
   > How low?   
      
   What percent of macOS / Win users do you think use desktop Linux?   
      
   > Is it worth it to Microsoft and Apple to get, say, another 5%   
   > of market share? Or do you think the dregs they’re trying to scrape   
   > are thinner than that?   
      
   I think it appeals to some small segment and they can work with that segment   
   and please them. Just as you can run Windows on macOS. I do it with Parallels.   
   That and Linux. I see it as a good thing. No idea why you see it as bad.   
      
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