XPost: comp.os.linux.advocacy, comp.sys.mac.advocacy   
   From: vallor@vallor.earth   
      
   At Fri, 28 Nov 2025 21:29:42 -0000 (UTC), Lawrence D’Oliveiro    
   ldo@nz.invalid> wrote:   
      
   > On 28 Nov 2025 15:52:41 GMT, Brock McNuggets wrote:   
   >   
   > > Apple profits quite nicely from what they offer.   
   >   
   > So why do they feel the need to offer more -- and get it from an   
   > outside source, at that?   
   >   
   > > Using open source allows them to make it cheaper.   
   >   
   > Since when does Apple make things cheaper?   
   >   
   > > They provide the VM. You can run Linux in it. Cool. And?   
   >   
   > And they make a big deal out of some kind of “lightweight VM” which is   
   > really just the usual Linux containerization capability.   
   >   
   > > You want then to recreate Linux from scratch...   
   >   
   > Why would they need to copy it at all? Why can’t they come up with   
   > something better? Why do you think they have to offer something   
   > Linux-compatible at all?   
   >   
   > Is the market demanding that, do you think?   
   >   
   > >> The question is, what percentage do they feel the need to attract   
   > >> to their platforms, that they have no choice about doing this?   
   > >   
   > > What percent of macOS / Win users do you think use desktop Linux?   
   > >   
   > > You keep dodging this and trying to change the topic. Bottom line --   
   > > you know the percentage is very low...   
   >   
   > How low? Is it worth it to Microsoft and Apple to get, say, another 5%   
   > of market share? Or do you think the dregs they’re trying to scrape   
   > are thinner than that?   
      
   Notice how weenerbrane frames the question with "desktop Linux".   
      
   Completely ignoring that Linux has almost completely taken   
   over the world -- as it should.   
      
   As the last holdout, the desktop market, shrinks...   
      
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