XPost: comp.os.linux.advocacy, comp.sys.mac.advocacy   
   From: nuh-uh@nope.com   
      
   On 2026-01-04 15:21, CrudeSausage wrote:   
   > On 2026-01-04 14:55, Alan wrote:   
   >> On 2026-01-03 18:26, CrudeSausage wrote:   
   >>> On 2026-01-03 20:20, Sn!pe wrote:   
   >>>> CrudeSausage wrote:   
   >>>>   
   >>>> [...]   
   >>>>   
   >>>>> Linux supports almost every platform under the sun.   
   >>>>> How many platforms does MacOS run on?   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>   
   >>>> macOS is designed to run on Apple kit, nothing else. If it ran   
   >>>> on other manucturers' (inferior) hardware, Apple would not sell   
   >>>> as much of their own kit, which is where they make their money.   
   >>>>   
   >>>> This is not rocket surgery, just sound commercial design.   
   >>> Which is entirely my point. Some of us buy hardware with the   
   >>> intention of doing whatever we want with it. We have a choice to run   
   >>> Windows or Linux if we bought x86-64, but Linux is still an option   
   >>> for us if we bought hardware of any other platform. If I were to buy   
   >>> a Mac, there is no doubt that I would have excellent hardware under   
   >>> my fingers when I type. Nevertheless, the hardware will never allow   
   >>> me to do whatever I want with it because, inevitably, Apple will   
   >>> cease to support it a few years after I bought it with no realistic   
   >>> option to keep it useful once the updates stop coming. I'm left with   
   >>> the option of buying a new one from Apple and allowing them to   
   >>> recycle my machine.   
   >>   
   >> Ummmmmm...what?   
   >>   
   >> Apple's support goes on for years, dude.   
   >   
   > Seven years on average. It's part of why I got an iPhone 13 over an   
   > Android which is usually supported for no more than two years. It's the   
   > same with the desktops and laptops. People with 2019 models of Apple   
   > computers are already aware that their machines are about to be forgotten.   
      
   Ummmmm...no. That's more Linux snob bullshit.   
      
      
   >   
   >> My last laptop was a 13" MacBook Pro (A1502) from early 2015, and I   
   >> only replaced it with my current M3 MacBook Air in early 2024.   
   >>   
   >> I got about 8.5 years out of it, and when I finally replaced it, it   
   >> was capable of running macOS (12)...   
   >>   
   >> ...which came out AFTER I'd already replaced the machine.   
   >   
   > A series of articles has been written about how long Apple supports its   
   > computers. Heck, I even did an AI search for you:   
   >   
   > "Apple typically provides hardware support for iPhones and Macs for five   
   > to seven years after the last sale date of the product.   
   > For iPhones, this support window includes both software updates and   
   > hardware repair services, with major iOS updates generally available for   
   > six to eight years after release.   
   > After the end of software support, Apple continues to provide security   
   > patches and limited hardware repairs for up to two more years, after   
   > which devices are classified as "vintage" or "obsolete" and no longer   
   > receive official service.   
   > For Macs, hardware support generally lasts around five years from the   
   > discontinuation of a model, although some models have received extended   
   > support due to longer sales periods."   
      
   OK. So?   
      
   >   
   >>> Meanwhile, Linux just allowed my brother to give a third life to his   
   >>> laptop from 2007.   
   >> Which is good usage, I grant you.   
   >>   
   >> But don't pretend that "Apple cease[s] support in a few years".   
   >   
   > Five to seven years, even our AI overlords agree.   
   >   
      
   "Five to seven years" in computing is not "a few".   
      
   --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05   
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