XPost: comp.os.linux.advocacy, comp.sys.mac.advocacy   
   From: crude@sausa.ge   
      
   On 2026-01-04 19:27, Alan wrote:   
   > On 2026-01-04 15:21, CrudeSausage wrote:   
   >> On 2026-01-04 14:55, Alan wrote:   
   >>> On 2026-01-03 18:26, CrudeSausage wrote:   
   >>>> On 2026-01-03 20:20, Sn!pe wrote:   
   >>>>> CrudeSausage  wrote:   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>> [...]   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>>> Linux supports almost every platform under the sun.   
   >>>>>> How many platforms does MacOS run on?   
   >>>>>>   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>> macOS is designed to run on Apple kit, nothing else.  If it ran   
   >>>>> on other manucturers' (inferior) hardware, Apple would not sell   
   >>>>> as much of their own kit, which is where they make their money.   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>> This is not rocket surgery, just sound commercial design.   
   >>>> Which is entirely my point. Some of us buy hardware with the   
   >>>> intention of doing whatever we want with it. We have a choice to run   
   >>>> Windows or Linux if we bought x86-64, but Linux is still an option   
   >>>> for us if we bought hardware of any other platform. If I were to buy   
   >>>> a Mac, there is no doubt that I would have excellent hardware under   
   >>>> my fingers when I type. Nevertheless, the hardware will never allow   
   >>>> me to do whatever I want with it because, inevitably, Apple will   
   >>>> cease to support it a few years after I bought it with no realistic   
   >>>> option to keep it useful once the updates stop coming. I'm left with   
   >>>> the option of buying a new one from Apple and allowing them to   
   >>>> recycle my machine.   
   >>>   
   >>> Ummmmmm...what?   
   >>>   
   >>> Apple's support goes on for years, dude.   
   >>   
   >> Seven years on average. It's part of why I got an iPhone 13 over an   
   >> Android which is usually supported for no more than two years. It's   
   >> the same with the desktops and laptops. People with 2019 models of   
   >> Apple computers are already aware that their machines are about to be   
   >> forgotten.   
   >   
   > Ummmmm...no. That's more Linux snob bullshit.   
      
   There's no need to refute you when AI does it so well for all of us. But   
   I'm sure AI is a Linux snob too:   
      
   "The 2019 Macs, which are Intel-based, will receive their final major   
   macOS update with macOS 26 Tahoe, which is the last version to support   
   Intel-based Macs.   
     This means that starting in 2026, these models will no longer receive   
   new feature updates. However, the 2019 MacBook Pro and 2019 iMac will   
   continue to receive security updates for three years after the release   
   of macOS 26 Tahoe, including two additional years of security patches   
   beyond the feature update period.   
     This brings the total support duration to approximately five years   
   from the end of their sale cycle, aligning with Apple’s recent pattern   
   of providing about five years of support post end of sale.   
     After this period, no further updates—neither feature nor   
   security—will be provided, making these devices increasingly vulnerable   
   to security threats and incompatible with modern software."   
      
   *FIVE* *YEARS* . Even Microsoft supports hardware for longer.   
      
   >>> My last laptop was a 13" MacBook Pro (A1502) from early 2015, and I   
   >>> only replaced it with my current M3 MacBook Air in early 2024.   
   >>>   
   >>> I got about 8.5 years out of it, and when I finally replaced it, it   
   >>> was capable of running macOS (12)...   
   >>>   
   >>> ...which came out AFTER I'd already replaced the machine.   
   >>   
   >> A series of articles has been written about how long Apple supports   
   >> its computers. Heck, I even did an AI search for you:   
   >>   
   >> "Apple typically provides hardware support for iPhones and Macs for   
   >> five to seven years after the last sale date of the product.   
   >>   For iPhones, this support window includes both software updates and   
   >> hardware repair services, with major iOS updates generally available   
   >> for six to eight years after release.   
   >>   After the end of software support, Apple continues to provide   
   >> security patches and limited hardware repairs for up to two more   
   >> years, after which devices are classified as "vintage" or "obsolete"   
   >> and no longer receive official service.   
   >>   For Macs, hardware support generally lasts around five years from   
   >> the discontinuation of a model, although some models have received   
   >> extended support due to longer sales periods."   
   >   
   > OK. So?   
      
   So, I just confirmed that I was right and that you are full of poop like   
   every other Apple zealot.   
      
   >>>> Meanwhile, Linux just allowed my brother to give a third life to his   
   >>>> laptop from 2007.   
   >>> Which is good usage, I grant you.   
   >>>   
   >>> But don't pretend that "Apple cease[s] support in a few years".   
   >>   
   >> Five to seven years, even our AI overlords agree.   
   >   
   > "Five to seven years" in computing is not "a few".   
      
   Meanwhile, people are going nuts because Microsoft's Windows 11 refuses   
   to support machines from 2017. I guess us PC users are idiots for   
   expecting to hold onto our hardware for as long as we want rather than   
   as long as the manufacturer wants us to.   
      
   --   
   CrudeSausage   
   John 14:6   
   Pop_OS!   
      
   --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05   
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