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   From: nobody@haph.org   
      
   Alan  news:10jjojn$2l2j$1@dont-email.me Tue, 06 Jan 2026   
   19:42:47 GMT in comp.os.linux.advocacy, wrote:   
      
   > On 2026-01-05 06:27, CrudeSausage wrote:   
      
   >> Well, since you insist on me being on point, Apple is crapware because   
   >> the moment the NVMe your machine comes from which also can't be   
   >> replaced reaches its TBW, the computer becomes a literal paperweight   
   >> because the component sends a signal to the rest of the machine to   
   >> prevent it from turning on. I believe that is the definition of crap.   
   >> I'm happy that I'm now back on point.   
   >   
   > Where did you read that:   
   >   
   > 'the component sends a signal to the rest of the machine to prevent it   
   > from turning on.'   
      
   Alan,   
      
   Aren't you skipping over the part where Apple thought it was a great idea to   
   solder the drive onto the mainboard making your ability as the owner to   
   replace a bad drive not possible? Hard drives are like batteries and   
   alternators on your daily driver. Not only is the HD soldered onto the board   
   (and I don't mean via some connector that just has to be desoldered and a   
   new one soldered in it's place) it's also not on a seperate board nor is all   
   the chips which make the HD located in one specific section, either. Not   
   only can't you replace the dead HD, you also can't upgrade to a larger   
   capacity one. They've done this in some cases with the RAM too. You can't   
   add additional memory in those cases.   
      
   These are components which will at some point require replacement. Would you   
   be impressed with your car manufacturer of choice if they made your car   
   disposable once the alternator dies? That contributes to the ewaste problem   
   and turns an expensive piece of hardware into trash. Most of the components   
   aren't even suitable for recycling for another machine to repair, because   
   Apple loves to mate components. You can't just lift a specific IC from a   
   donor board to save another dead Apple. The IC is mated to the gear it was   
   pulled from. How is this consumer friendly?   
      
   It's great for Apple because they get to make a new sale, but it's not so   
   good for you the owner of an effective paperweight. We've sort of had this   
   discussion before. I posted a video explaining this but you didn't want to   
   watch it so you asked me what the video was about. So, I told you. You   
   didn't respond further in the thread to me about any of this. I even bumped   
   it and asked if you had further questions. Crickets was the response. Now I   
   see you ignoring the whole soldering chips onto the board so that you won't   
   be replacing the HD.   
      
   Yes, some lower end PCs did the same bullshit (without mating various   
   components that is; you could pull them and use them on another rig) You   
   didn't have a thousand or more dollars tied up in those rigs though. With   
   apple, you do.   
      
   How is this design decision consumer friendly? I asked you that previously   
   but you didn't respond, so I'm asking again since the subject has come up   
   again and you're ignoring it outright and focusing on the last sentence he   
   wrote. You should have watched that video. It also did a brief run over if   
   you will about the 'remain dead due to component failure' self check. Which   
   I think is what Crude was referencing?   
      
   There's also an interesting design decision on the part of Apple about   
   having their data lines very close to the power lines on the mainboard. When   
   certain components which happen to be connected to both lines fail (as long   
   as they're working properly, the lines remain isolated from each other as   
   they should be) those lines aren't isolated from each other anymore and a   
   daisy chain cascade failure takes place.   
      
   I can share all kinds of board level design decisions that aren't consumer   
   friendly on the part of Apple by others who are regarded as professionals in   
   the trade, if you'd like. Louise Rossman has been working on Apple rigs for   
   years and has the same issues with them as myself and others when it comes   
   to some of their design decisions. Those decisions are not consumer friendly.   
      
   I understand that you may not be one of those individuals who fixes   
   computers on the same level as myself and Mr Rossman, but, that's no excuse   
   to ignore what Apple does that is not consumer friendly. You have a lot of   
   coin tied up in that Apple product. Hard earned monies you spent on it.   
   Don't you believe you should be able to replace known to fail components so   
   that you can get some additional years of usage out of your investment? It's   
   a full fledged laptop, not a cell phone. You should be able to replace or   
   upgrade the HD for a larger one if you so desire. You can't do either with   
   those specific models. Once the HD goes kaput, the laptop is a paperweight.   
   How is that consumer friendly, Alan?   
      
      
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