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   On 1/21/26 23:33, Gremlin wrote:   
   > -hh  news:10kqm5t$23fv6$2@dont-email.me   
   > Wed, 21 Jan 2026 14:00:29 GMT in comp.os.linux.advocacy, wrote:   
   >   
   > [huge snip]   
   >   
   >> Everything has a finite life.  The question of enabling repairability   
   >> will logically focus on those components which have lower lifespans.   
   >   
   > The point remains; What I wrote about the Apples using a soldered on SSD   
   drive   
   > has been proven to be accurate. If the drive dies, the laptop dies with it.   
      
   So what?  You're trying to avoid how products are designed, as the cost   
   to design in lower cost maintainability is never zero, so the business   
   decision gets tied to the probability of failure of that part/subsystem   
   and its consequence.   
      
   What are the odds of your lethal 13V spike occurring in a PC's RAM   
   and/or NVMe after its warranty period over its, say, next five years of   
   service life?   
      
   Because by your insinuation, its a common risk to customers for us to be   
   concerned about.   
      
      
   > They will not be able to get around this by booting and using external media.   
   > They won't have the opportunity because the laptop won't be able to do it.   
   The   
   > laptop does effectively become a paperweight once the SSD is gone. Options   
   for   
   > repair are limited to specialized shops like what mine is with no guarantee   
   > that I too would have to resort to doing the same thing as Apple - replace   
   the   
   > logic board. I do not have a markup on components like that.   
      
   Compare that to your proverbial 13V spike on a computer which contains   
   the socketed board that you're advocating for:  did being socketed make   
   a difference in protecting its motherboard protected from the high   
   voltage spike damage?  And if so, how is that possibly so?   
      
   > ...   
   > Since I've proven that all of the statements I've written about the   
   > paperweight effect are infact true, There's no point in continuing to humour   
   > your commentary that never had much of anything to do with what I was stating   
   > concerning the soldered SSD in the first place.   
      
   Incorrect: you're arguing about a distinction which lacks a difference.   
      
      
   > I believe I've treated you fairly in that I didn't ignore your efforts,   
   > I did respond. I have read your followup but it looks like a harder   
   > effort to troll. imo. I'm not here for that.   
      
   You believe incorrectly, as you're avoiding my question (repeated above)   
   on how your "13V spike" failure mode would not also be fatal to a PC   
   which has its RAM/NVMe/etc socketed instead of soldered.   
      
   Again: wouldn't that 13V spike also be fatal on a socketed computer?   
      
      
   > I think Alan ...   
      
   I'm still not Alan; you need not repeat it a third time.   
      
      
      
   -hh   
      
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