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   candycanearter07 to Brock McNuggets   
   Re: This Is Why They Say, Windows Is A G   
   23 Jan 26 15:10:07   
   
   XPost: comp.os.linux.advocacy   
   From: candycanearter07@candycanearter07.nomail.afraid   
      
   Brock McNuggets  wrote at 01:37 this Friday (GMT):   
   > On Jan 22, 2026 at 1:10:02 PM MST, "candycanearter07" wrote   
   >:   
   >   
   >> Brock McNuggets  wrote at 20:17 this Tuesday   
   (GMT):   
   >>> On Jan 20, 2026 at 9:53:59 AM MST, "Chris Ahlstrom" wrote   
   >>> <10kobv9$1bonr$2@dont-email.me>:   
   >>>   
   >>>> Brock McNuggets wrote this post by blinking in Morse code:   
   >>>>   
   >>>>> On Jan 20, 2026 at 7:50:03 AM MST, "candycanearter07" wrote   
   >>>>> :   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>>> Brock McNuggets  wrote at 06:06 this Sunday   
   (GMT):   
   >>>>>>> On Jan 17, 2026 at 10:27:14 PM MST, "Gremlin" wrote   
   >>>>>>> :   
   >>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>> Brock McNuggets    
   >>>>>>>> news:696c2034$1$20$882e4bbb@reader.netnews.com Sat, 17 Jan 2026   
   23:50:12   
   >>>>>>>> GMT in comp.os.linux.advocacy, wrote:   
   >>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>> On Jan 17, 2026 at 3:47:39 PM MST, "Gremlin" wrote   
   >>>>>>>>> :   
   >>>>>> [snip]   
   >>>>>>>>>>  MS was actively discouraging the use of .INI files   
   >>>>>>>>>> from Windows 95. They wanted you using the centralized registry   
   >>>>>>>>>> instead.   
   >>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>> Yes... what a pain.   
   >>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>> It could be if you weren't very familiar with it.   
   >>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>> I prefer the INI or stand alone preferences system. Especially when   
   they are   
   >>>>>>> stored in a logical location they make troubleshooting easier.   
   >>>>>>   
   >>>>>> I honestly never really got the registry. For system settings, fine, I   
   can   
   >>>>>> get wanting to use a binary format like that. For user options, it just   
   >>>>>> makes it harder to access, change, backup, etc... and is inherently not   
   >>>>>> cross-platform.   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>> Agreed.   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>>> The only benefit I can think of would be having   
   >>>>>> persistent user settings, and that can easily be achieved by storing   
   >>>>>> user settings in %AppData% and/or not deleting it with the built in   
   >>>>>> uninstaller.   
   >>>>>> [snip]   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>> I like how macOS does it... a Preferences folder with files. Apple has   
   changed   
   >>>>> it a bit so it is cached which might help in some ways but makes   
   >>>>> troubleshooting a bit harder. Not exactly sure how Linux does it.   
   >>>>   
   >>>> It can vary, but in general: sample config files reside in   
   >>>> /usr/share/appname, the system-wide config file reside in   
   >>>> /etc/appname, user-specific overrides of the configuration are in   
   >>>> /home/username/.config/appname or are stored as "rc" or "conf"   
   >>>> files whose names start with ".".   
   >>>>   
   >>>> User-specific/app-specific state files (settings) are in   
   >>>> /home/user/.local/share/appname ... or somewhere thereabouts :-D.   
   >>>>   
   >>>> Arch Linux has slightly different conventions, a bit like   
   >>>> FreeBSD's.   
   >>>>   
   >>>> It's a bit krufty from having been built up over the years, but   
   >>>> one gets used to it, just as one gets used to Window's Registry   
   >>>> and the locations for 32 vs 64-bit Registry entries.   
   >>>   
   >>> I know I have looked at SOME of those over the years but always have to   
   look   
   >>> up where they all are. Not a weakness of Linux, just an artifact of my not   
   >>> using it as much as I use macOS, and some level of macOS being more   
   consistent   
   >>> in that are. Preference files (.plist) are either in:   
   >>>   
   >>> ~/Library/Preferences/   
   >>>   
   >>> or   
   >>>   
   >>> /Library/Preferences/   
   >>>   
   >>> While rarely something I have worked with, they can also be:   
   >>>   
   >>> /Library/Managed Preferences/   
   >>>   
   >>> In more modern macOS versions the .plist files can be cached, which might   
   make   
   >>> things faster but also can complicate troubleshooting.   
   >>>   
   >>> Thanks for your info.   
   >>>   
   >>> Side note: Unlikely, but do you have a relative name Dale? If so you might   
   >>> want to contact me offline... I am getting calls about him (maybe he had my   
   >>> number sometime in the past?). Will not discuss publicly.   
   >>   
   >>   
   >> I imagine its more consistent on Mac because of XCode, and file access   
   >> permissions.   
   >   
   > I am NOT a developer, but from what I understand Xcode doesn’t really drive   
   > that —- it’s more Apple (largely) enforcing preference APIs and directory   
   > conventions at the OS level. Linux has conventions too, but they're optional   
   > rather than mandatory. Again, take all that with a grain of salt... outside   
   of   
   > my area of expertise.   
      
      
   Fair, I have not touched Apple development ever. With how locked down   
   Apple stuff is, I wouldn't be suprised if directory conventions were   
   enforced with the OS. I imagine the program would have limited write   
   access outside of their designated directories.   
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