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   Lawrence =?iso-8859-13?q?D=FFOliveiro?=    
   news:10kv2j3$3l2lk$4@dont-email.me Fri, 23 Jan 2026 05:56:52 GMT in   
   comp.os.linux.advocacy, wrote:   
      
   > On 21 Jan 2026 15:43:46 GMT, Brock McNuggets wrote:   
   >   
   >> Gremlin is trying to push the idea that Apple is bad because their   
   >> computers do not last as long... but the data show that people tend   
   >> to keep Macs for a lot longer than they keep PCs.   
      
   As usual, the troll is misinterpreting me. I wasn't trying to push anything   
   specific. I was informing the public that Some Apple computers are meant to   
   be disposed of and will turn themselves into a paperweight when a specific   
   internal component reaches EOL or unexpectedly dies sooner. Unlike some   
   computers (most?), these particular Apple based machines cannot boot from   
   external media and remain useful in such a situation. They either won't be   
   able to power on (due to a component shorting the main power to ground) or   
   will be able to turn on but are bricked due to missing critical firmware   
   that's no longer stored on a seperate chip but stored on the soldered on SSD   
   drive.   
      
   I made no mention of how long they last or should last or that Apple is bad   
   per say. I did take issue with that design decision on their part. I do take   
   issue with their desire to mate so many components to each other that it's a   
   difficult process to make any repairs and the ones you can perform are   
   limited. I disagree that such an expensive piece of gear should be   
   classified as ewaste so easily when many other components on it are still   
   good and should be able to be put back in service.   
      
   I did compare those design decisions to that of a PC, though. Using one of   
   my laptops as an example for the comparison, if the SSD it presently has   
   dies; it doesn't turn the machine into a paperweight. I can replace the   
   drive. I can also ignore the bad drive, leave it connected in most cases and   
   resort to external media. This laptop would still run if it had no internal   
   hard drive present. This one doesn't have soldered RAM either. So, I can   
   upgrade it/replace the ram it has presently if I want/need to do so.   
      
   It doesn't have mated ICs present. If I need to replace the video panel, it   
   won't try to stop me by having mated the current one to an IC. It's designed   
   to be serviceable - some of which can be performed by an average Joe. The   
   rest can be done by a technician with enough experience with electronics and   
   soldering/desoldering practices.   
      
   That doesn't mean I think Apple is bad. It means I disagree with some of   
   their design decisions.   
      
      
      
      
      
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