From: arne@vajhoej.dk   
      
   On 3/27/2025 3:06 PM, Craig A. Berry wrote:   
   > On 3/26/25 7:02 AM, Arne Vajhøj wrote:   
   >> On 3/26/2025 1:09 AM, David Meyer wrote:   
   >>> Is there anything in the VSI licensing that would prevent a community of   
   >>> VMS and Rust (for example) fans from developing a VMS port of a Rust   
   >>> compiler and releasing the compiler as open source?   
   >>   
   >> No.   
   >>   
   >> VMS users can write or port all the compilers they want to.   
   >   
   > One of the following things would have to happen for that to be true:   
   >   
   > - VSI produces and makes available an LLVM developer kit   
   > - VSI pushes back upstream everything people would need to develop   
   > compilers with LLVM   
   > - People create their own port of LLVM for VMS   
      
   or:   
   - people use a different backend than LLVM (GCC, custom, whatever)   
      
   Regarding your last dash and my added dash:   
      
   No license problem.   
      
   No pure technical problem  either - getting LLVM or another backend   
   working on VMS is no harder than on one of the platforms where it   
   does happen.   
      
   Likelihood of it happening is probably less than winning powerball (west   
   side of Atlantic Ocean) / euromillions (east side of Atlantic Ocean)   
   3 times in a row.   
      
   The VMS community's interest in taking on open source work is   
   notoriously low.   
      
   > As of today, the only way to get LLVM on VMS is to get a compiler   
   > produced by VSI, and those compilers are not going to be   
   > redistributable. I think VSI has expressed an intention to push their   
   > changes back upstream but that hasn't happened yet and they have a   
   > mountain of work to do to get there.   
      
   Yes.   
      
   Arne   
      
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