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   On 29/03/2025 18:19, Waldek Hebisch wrote:   
   > Simon Clubley  wrote:   
   >> On 2025-03-27, Arne Vajhøj  wrote:   
   >>>   
   >>> or:   
   >>> - people use a different backend than LLVM (GCC, custom, whatever)   
   >>>   
   >>   
   >> If anyone knows of a serious backend code generator other than LLVM   
   >> or GCC, please feel free to point me at it. :-)   
   >>   
   >> Simon.   
   >>   
   >> PS: And no Bill, the Amsterdam Compiler Kit does not apply. :-)   
   >   
   > Depends what you consider serious (and what "backend" means).   
   > There is bunch of compilers that use their own backend,   
   > for example optimized Ocaml or SBCL Lisp.  If you aim at   
   > highest possible speed, regardless of language, then they   
   > can not compete.  If you look at native performance for   
   > relevant languages, then they are top performers (there are   
   > Lisp compilers which generate code via translation to C,   
   > resulting speed is lower than obtained using SBCL).   
   >   
   > Note that context was porting languages, "classic"   
   > languages are covered by VSI, so relevant things are   
   > backends for more exotic languages.  There was recent   
   > trend to adopt LLVM in such cases, and Julia seem to   
   > be prominent example of language dependent on LLVM.   
   > But more popular approach seem to be via custom   
   > backend or via C.  For example Haskell folks some time   
   > ago said that LLVM does not really give them advantages   
   > compared to going via C, and C way is easier.   
   >   
      
   Isn't that what GNAT does for Ada?   
      
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   Chris   
      
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