From: arne@vajhoej.dk   
      
   On 4/3/2025 2:15 PM, Simon Clubley wrote:   
   > On 2025-04-01, Arne Vajhøj  wrote:   
   >> He looks at size 6.2 -> 7.2 -> 8.2 -> 9.2 and .mar vs .c 6.2 -> 9.2.   
   >>   
   >> https://vmssoftware.com/resources/blog/2025-03-31-how-big-is-vms/   
   >   
   > How the hell does DCL have 30,000+ lines of code ? :-)   
   > (Even allowing for the fact most of it is in Macro-32)   
      
   Just for fun I downloaded bash and counted. 117 KLOC.   
      
   > Also, regarding those BLISS/Macro-32 figures across the various modules   
   > in general, I wonder how much smaller the code would have been if it had   
   > been written in C ?   
      
   C is a relative high LOC/FP language.   
      
   Most LOC/FP tables have C in the 100-125 range and macro-assembler   
   in the 200-250 range.   
      
   If we adjust for VAX instructions being more powerful/complex   
   than average ISA, add a random number and subtract wind speed I   
   will estimate the Macro-32 / C ratio to be around 1.5-1.75.   
      
   If you buy that then the DCL 33 KLOC would be 19-22 KLOC in C   
   to be compared with bash 117 KLOC.   
      
   Arne   
      
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