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   Dan Cross to arne@vajhoej.dk   
   Re: Clair Grant on VMS code base   
   17 Apr 25 12:58:26   
   
   From: cross@spitfire.i.gajendra.net   
      
   In article ,   
   Arne Vajhøj   wrote:   
   >On 4/16/2025 9:29 PM, Dan Cross wrote:   
   >> In article <67fee5b8$0$708$14726298@news.sunsite.dk>,   
   >> Arne Vajhøj   wrote:   
   >>> There is no question that it is most accurate to only   
   >>> count the continued line as one in your example.   
   >>>   
   >>> But I suspect that a lot of LOC counters just count   
   >>> non-blank and non-comment.   
   >>>   
   >>> Anything else requires language knowledge.   
   >>>   
   >>> And while it for Fortran, Basic, Macro-32 may be relative   
   >>> simple, then for other languages it can become more tricky.   
   >>>   
   >>> Let us take 4 times Pascal:   
   >>>   
   >>> if a = 1 then b := 2 else b := 3;   
   >>>   
   >>> if a = 1 then   
   >>>     b := 2   
   >>> else   
   >>>     b := 3;   
   >>>   
   >>> if a = 1 then begin   
   >>>     b := 2;   
   >>> end else begin   
   >>>     b := 3;   
   >>> end;   
   >>>   
   >>> if a = 1 then   
   >>> begin   
   >>>     b := 2;   
   >>> end   
   >>> else   
   >>> begin   
   >>>     b := 3;   
   >>> end;   
   >>>   
   >>> How many lines? I would say that the most correct is 3 in   
   >>> all 4 cases. But coding the line counter to return that   
   >>> would require it to have Pascal knowledge.   
   >>>   
   >>> And what about the fluent style that are so modern?   
   >>>   
   >>> o = f.create();   
   >>> o.add(1);   
   >>> o.add(2);   
   >>> o.add(3);   
   >>>   
   >>> o = f.create()   
   >>>       .add(1)   
   >>>       .add(2)   
   >>>       .add(3);   
   >>>   
   >>> o = f.create().add(1).add(2).add(3);   
   >>>   
   >>> 1 1 1 or 4 1 1 or 4 4 1 or 4 4 4??   
   >>>   
   >>> So I think counters go for the simple approach and assume   
   >>> that for large code bases with many developers then total   
   >>> converge towards an "average" style.   
   >>   
   >> Most modern code-counting tools _are_ language aware.  Whether   
   >> they do a better or worse job for each given language may be a   
   >> matter of debate, but most at least recognize different   
   >> languages and have some knowledge of their semantics.   
   >>   
   >> Cf, https://github.com/XAMPPRocky/tokei?tab=readme-ov-file   
   >> https://github.com/AlDanial/cloc?tab=readme-ov-file#recognized-languages-   
   >> https://github.com/boyter/scc/blob/master/LANGUAGES.md   
   >>   
   >> etc.   
   >   
   >Their language awareness consist of recognizing comments.   
   >   
   >They are examples of some of those tools that simply count   
   >non-blank non-comment lines.   
   >   
   >(SCC also know some keywords but that is used for complexity   
   >calculation not for line counting)   
   >   
   >C:\Work>type demo.c   
   >// C demo   
   >   
   >#include    
   >   
   >int main()   
   >{   
   >     int a[] = {   
   >         1,   
   >         2,   
   >         3   
   >     };   
   >     printf("%d %d %d\n",   
   >         a[0],   
   >         a[1],   
   >         a[2]);   
   >     return 0;   
   >}   
   >   
   >C:\Work>cloc-1.96 demo.c   
   >        1 text file.   
   >        1 unique file.   
   >        0 files ignored.   
   >   
   >github.com/AlDanial/cloc v 1.96  T=0.01 s (67.5 files/s, 1147.0 lines/s)   
   >---------------------------------------------------------------   
   ---------------   
   >Language                     files          blank        comment   
   >   code   
   >---------------------------------------------------------------   
   ---------------   
   >C                                1              2              1   
   >     14   
   >---------------------------------------------------------------   
   ---------------   
   >   
   >C:\Work>scc demo.c   
   >─────────────────────   
   ”€â”€â”€â”€â”€â”€â”€â”€â”€â”€â”€â”€â”€â”€â”€â”€â”€â”€â”€â”€â”€â”   
   â”€â”€â”€â”€â”€â”€â”€â”€â”€â”€â”€â”€â”€â”€â”€â”€â”€â”€â”€â”€â”€â   
   €â”€â”€â”€â”€â”€â”€â”€â”€â”€â”€â”€â”€â”€â”€   
   >Language                 Files     Lines   Blanks  Comments     Code   
   >Complexity   
   >─────────────────────   
   ”€â”€â”€â”€â”€â”€â”€â”€â”€â”€â”€â”€â”€â”€â”€â”€â”€â”€â”€â”€â”€â”   
   â”€â”€â”€â”€â”€â”€â”€â”€â”€â”€â”€â”€â”€â”€â”€â”€â”€â”€â”€â”€â”€â   
   €â”€â”€â”€â”€â”€â”€â”€â”€â”€â”€â”€â”€â”€â”€   
   >C                            1        17        2         1       14   
   >      0   
   >─────────────────────   
   ”€â”€â”€â”€â”€â”€â”€â”€â”€â”€â”€â”€â”€â”€â”€â”€â”€â”€â”€â”€â”€â”   
   â”€â”€â”€â”€â”€â”€â”€â”€â”€â”€â”€â”€â”€â”€â”€â”€â”€â”€â”€â”€â”€â   
   €â”€â”€â”€â”€â”€â”€â”€â”€â”€â”€â”€â”€â”€â”€   
   >Total                        1        17        2         1       14   
   >      0   
   >─────────────────────   
   ”€â”€â”€â”€â”€â”€â”€â”€â”€â”€â”€â”€â”€â”€â”€â”€â”€â”€â”€â”€â”€â”   
   â”€â”€â”€â”€â”€â”€â”€â”€â”€â”€â”€â”€â”€â”€â”€â”€â”€â”€â”€â”€â”€â   
   €â”€â”€â”€â”€â”€â”€â”€â”€â”€â”€â”€â”€â”€â”€   
   >Estimated Cost to Develop (organic) $305   
   >Estimated Schedule Effort (organic) 0.63 months   
   >Estimated People Required (organic) 0.04   
   >─────────────────────   
   ”€â”€â”€â”€â”€â”€â”€â”€â”€â”€â”€â”€â”€â”€â”€â”€â”€â”€â”€â”€â”€â”   
   â”€â”€â”€â”€â”€â”€â”€â”€â”€â”€â”€â”€â”€â”€â”€â”€â”€â”€â”€â”€â”€â   
   €â”€â”€â”€â”€â”€â”€â”€â”€â”€â”€â”€â”€â”€â”€   
   >Processed 200 bytes, 0.000 megabytes (SI)   
   >─────────────────────   
   ”€â”€â”€â”€â”€â”€â”€â”€â”€â”€â”€â”€â”€â”€â”€â”€â”€â”€â”€â”€â”€â”   
   â”€â”€â”€â”€â”€â”€â”€â”€â”€â”€â”€â”€â”€â”€â”€â”€â”€â”€â”€â”€â”€â   
   €â”€â”€â”€â”€â”€â”€â”€â”€â”€â”€â”€â”€â”€â”€   
   >   
   >C:\Work>tokei-x86_64-pc-windows-msvc demo.c   
   >===============================================================   
   ===============   
   >  Language            Files        Lines         Code     Comments   
   >Blanks   
   >===============================================================   
   ===============   
   >  C                       1           17           14            1   
   >      2   
   >===============================================================   
   ===============   
   >  Total                   1           17           14            1   
   >      2   
   >===============================================================   
   ===============   
      
   You are aware that there are other tools, correct?  These are   
   just examples of a handful that have _some_ language awareness.   
      
   	- Dan C.   
      
   --- SoupGate-DOS v1.05   
    * Origin: you cannot sedate... all the things you hate (1:229/2)   

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