From: ldo@nz.invalid   
      
   On Thu, 10 Jul 2025 19:14:13 -0400, Arne Vajhøj wrote:   
      
   > On 7/10/2025 1:48 AM, Lawrence D'Oliveiro wrote:   
   >>   
   >> Seems like somebody is really, really scared of the possibilities   
   >> offered by being able to embed one language inside another.   
   >   
   > Embedded SQL, call API with static SQL, call API with dynamic SQL only   
   > dynamic non-data and call API with dynamic SQL and dynamic data all   
   > embed SQL in Cobol/C/Java/PHP/Python/whatever.   
      
   All just so clunky, as we have already seen.   
      
   > Even ORM's tend to embed a language. Either SQL or something ORM   
   > specific: EJBQL, HQL, JPQL, JDOQL, JDQL, DQL etc..   
      
   ORMs are a waste of time. I’ve seen how they deal with complex queries --   
   it’s just re-expressing the complexity of SQL in another equally complex   
   form.   
      
   > So nobody seems afraid of embedding SQL.   
      
   They are afraid of doing it dynamically, though.   
      
   > The style you propose match pretty well how PHP developers did things   
   > back in the 00's. They learned that it was not good.   
      
   Because ... PHP.   
      
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