From: cross@spitfire.i.gajendra.net   
      
   In article <104pi1v$13i9u$1@dont-email.me>,   
   Arne Vajhøj   wrote:   
   >On 7/10/2025 8:00 AM, Dan Cross wrote:   
   >> In article ,   
   >> bill   wrote:   
   >>> On 7/8/2025 5:58 PM, Lawrence D'Oliveiro wrote:   
   >>>> On Tue, 8 Jul 2025 07:14:44 -0400, Arne Vajhøj wrote:   
   >>>>> $ link main2 + sys$input/opt   
   >>>>> main1shr/share   
   >>>>> $   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>> what bucket would you put main1.exe in?   
   >>>>   
   >>>> Note that, on *nix systems, shareable libraries can be specified directly   
   >>>> on the command line, without having to go through options files. Why does   
   >>>> the VMS linker need options files for this common case?   
   >>>   
   >>> See above...  "on *nix systems"   
   >>> He doesn't care about VMS.  STOP FEEDING HE TROLL!!!!!   
   >>   
   >> I think that Arne may be incapable of that.  He seems unable to   
   >> refrain from engaging, and clearly asking him to stop for the   
   >> benefit of other readers has been ineffective thus far.   
   >>   
   >> Perhaps the best thing is to just plonk any part of a thread   
   >> where someone responds to the troll, whether the responder is   
   >> Arne or anyone else.  I have no reason to believe that asking   
   >> Arne again is going to yield a different result.   
   >   
   >You are free to plonk all the threads you want to plonk.   
   >   
   >And you are also free to post about about plonking this and that.   
   >   
   >I would recommend that you do not post about it as it is   
   >useless content for other.   
      
   I would recommend you do not respond to the troll for similar   
   reasons.  However, at this point, evidence suggests that you are   
   incapable of understanding that.   
      
   >Except if you run a VMS based newsreader and need help on   
   >how to plonk. That would of course be a totally relevant topic.   
   >But I have a strong feeling that is not the case.   
      
   No need for strong feelings: anyone who can read USENET article   
   headers can tell that it is, in fact, not the case.  But, while   
   that is irrelevant, perhaps it is something that you struggle   
   with, which is why you waste time speculating instead of simply   
   looking and confirming.   
      
   >But maybe consider this: when people read these threads   
   >in 10 or 20 or 30 years, then what do you think people   
   >will find most useful:   
   >A) your rant(s) about Lawrence and talk about plonking   
   >B) this subthread covering topics like: syntax for linking   
   >    shareable images vs syntax for linking with shareable images,   
   >    use of CLI$PRESENT return code to distinguish between   
   >    qualifier on verb vs on parameter, difference between   
   >    SYS$PIPE and SYS$INPUT when using PIPE command   
   >?   
      
   If it were just me, you might have a point.  But it's not, and   
   at least three others recently have echoed pleas for you to   
   stop engaging with him.   
      
   Indeed, I was the one suggesting to Bill that continuing to ask   
   you to not engage with someone who clearly does not participate   
   in good faith, is an exercise in futility and that he shouldn't   
   bother.  One wonders why you didn't write this cute little rant   
   to Bill, after he once again asked you to stop feeding the   
   troll?   
      
   To go with your hypothetical, however, I suspect that in 10, 20   
   or 30 years, _if_ someone reviews these conversations, they'll   
   seriously wonder why you continued to engage this clown on   
   uninformed rants about how VMS should have been implemented on   
   top of the Linux kernel, and why you kept going as you both   
   endlessly chased each others tails speculating about the   
   internal VSI engineering and business challenges that lead to   
   the long delay in getting the x86 port out, and why you gave   
   serious consideration to his clearly ignorant ramblings about   
   software development, embedded SQL, and so on.   
      
   Sadly, whatever useful information is in this subthread is   
   simply overwhelmed by the sheer volume of the troll's drivel,   
   which is dramatically amplified by your inability to refrain   
   from responding to him.  I suspect that most resonable future   
   readers will give up in frustration before getting to the good   
   stuff: an effect almost entirely due to you.   
      
   But since you can't figure out how to read an article's headers,   
   maybe you just need some help configuring your news reader, so   
   let us know if you need a tutorial on how to use a killfile: I'm   
   sure someone around here can help, and it is most certainly on   
   topic here.   
      
   	- Dan C.   
      
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