From: ldo@nz.invalid   
      
   On Thu, 10 Jul 2025 20:29:56 -0400, Arne Vajhøj wrote:   
      
   > You can save a lot of code by using ORM.   
   >   
   > Example (Groovy and JPA):   
   >   
   > jpadata = em.createQuery("SELECT DISTINCT o FROM OrdersJPA AS o JOIN   
   > FETCH o.orderLines ol", OrdersJPA.class).getResultList()   
   >   
   > Gives you a list of order objects that each has a list of order lines   
   > objects.   
      
   I thought the whole point of an ORM was to get away from having to hand-   
   construct SQL queries. And yet you have done exactly that.   
      
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