From: ldo@nz.invalid   
      
   On Mon, 28 Jul 2025 19:28:51 -0400, Arne Vajhøj wrote:   
      
   > I repeat: the saving is not in the query, but in the mapping from the   
   > query result to the object model.   
      
   But I thought a key point of ORMs is hiding the SQL. Look at SQLAlchemy,   
   for example , which   
   does a lot of this. Is that a bad example of an ORM?   
      
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