From: arne@vajhoej.dk   
      
   On 8/8/2025 1:50 PM, Arne Vajhøj wrote:   
   > On 8/8/2025 1:42 PM, bill wrote:   
   >> On 8/8/2025 11:05 AM, Chris Townley wrote:   
   >>> You would think that Oracle would have details of customers who have   
   >>> bought RDB licenses in the past   
   >>   
   >> But then, you also might think that Oracle would just much like   
   >> to see them all go away so they could stop spending resources on   
   >> something that is not a profit maker.   
   >   
   > I am rather confident that Rdb is making a profit. The list   
   > price of Rdb is pretty high and even with a solid discount   
   > to good customers, then Oracle should be able to make   
   > a profit.   
   >   
   > The problem is that it is a very small area within a very   
   > big company.   
   >   
   > Oracle DB, Oracle ERP & CRM (whatever its current name is),   
   > Oracle cloud etc. are huge business areas making tens   
   > of billions in revenue and billions in profit.   
   >   
   > So if Rdb talk about growing revenue by 10 M$ and Oracle cloud talk   
   > about growing revenue by 10 B$, then senior management will not   
   > spend many seconds on Rdb.   
      
   Note that both Rdb team and VSI seems to have been   
   trying to build an alliance by pushing Oracle cloud   
   for Rdb and VMS in general.   
      
   The competition OCI vs AWS vs Azure vs GCP is hard. And   
   anything giving more customers for Oracle cloud could   
   get at least some support from Oracle cloud team.   
      
   Arne   
      
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