From: arne@vajhoej.dk   
      
   On 8/14/2025 8:18 PM, Chris Townley wrote:   
   > On 15/08/2025 01:06, Arne Vajhøj wrote:   
   >> On 8/14/2025 8:02 PM, Arne Vajhøj wrote:   
   >>> On 8/14/2025 7:48 PM, Arne Vajhøj wrote:   
   >>>> On 8/13/2025 7:55 AM, Robert B. Carleton wrote:   
   >>>>> On Tue, 12 Aug 2025 19:46:18 -0400, Arne Vajhøj wrote:   
   >>>>>> Customers pay annual software update license on Alpha and Itanium   
   >>>>>> today.   
   >>>>>>   
   >>>>>> And if they get the x86-64 port out the door, then customers will pay   
   >>>>>> pay annual software update license on x86-64.   
   >>>>>>   
   >>>>>> So annual revenue and annual cost. Hopefully with a profit.   
   >>>>>> But point being that the profit is relative small in the bigger   
   >>>>>> Oracle   
   >>>>>> picture.   
   >>>>>>   
   >>>>>> If they don't get the x86-64 port out the door then both annual   
   >>>>>> revenue   
   >>>>>> and annual cost will eventually move to zero.   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>> I'll speculate that part of Oracle's interest is to move OpenVMS/Rdb   
   >>>>> workloads to OCI, in addition to any Rdb licensing that they hope   
   >>>>> to earn.   
   >>>>   
   >>>> Yes.   
   >>>>   
   >>>> In another post I wrote:   
   >>>>   
   >>>> # Note that both Rdb team and VSI seems to have been   
   >>>> # trying to build an alliance by pushing Oracle cloud   
   >>>> # for Rdb and VMS in general.   
   >>>> #   
   >>>> # The competition OCI vs AWS vs Azure vs GCP is hard. And   
   >>>> # anything giving more customers for Oracle cloud could   
   >>>> # get at least some support from Oracle cloud team.   
   >>>   
   >>> OCI is practically the only choice for cloud if running Rdb   
   >>> due to Oracle license policy.   
   >>>   
   >>> But even for non-Rdb customers then OCI would be first choice   
   >>> if that is what VSI recommend and/or test first on.   
   >>   
   >> But for those that by principle don't buy anything   
   >> Oracle, then I suggest reaching out to David Cathey.   
   >> He is now senior solution architect at AWS and I think   
   >> he would be just the right person to move some VMS   
   >> systems to AWS.   
   >   
   > I thought VSI were working with AWS   
      
   Maybe they are.   
      
   I have just noticed OCI shown at several   
   VMS presentations.   
      
   As an example:   
      
   OpenVMS in the Cloud   
   Camiel Vanderhoeven   
   October 2024   
      
   And I do not recall seeing anything similar for AWS.   
      
   But I can have missed something . And if VSI has customers   
   asking for AWS, then VSI would obviously need to look at AWS.   
      
   I still think David Cathey would be a good connection for   
   such - he may very likely be the most VMS knowledgable   
   solution architect in AWS, Azure and GCP.   
      
   Arne   
      
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