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   Craig A. Berry to All   
   Re: Oracle (Rdb) on OpenVMS   
   15 Aug 25 07:50:41   
   
   From: craigberry@nospam.mac.com   
      
   On 8/14/25 7:02 PM, Arne Vajhøj wrote:   
   > On 8/14/2025 7:48 PM, Arne Vajhøj wrote:   
      
   >> In another post I wrote:   
   >>   
   >> # Note that both Rdb team and VSI seems to have been   
   >> # trying to build an alliance by pushing Oracle cloud   
   >> # for Rdb and VMS in general.   
   >> #   
   >> # The competition OCI vs AWS vs Azure vs GCP is hard. And   
   >> # anything giving more customers for Oracle cloud could   
   >> # get at least some support from Oracle cloud team.   
   >   
   > OCI is practically the only choice for cloud if running Rdb   
   > due to Oracle license policy.   
   >   
   > But even for non-Rdb customers then OCI would be first choice   
   > if that is what VSI recommend and/or test first on.   
      
   Which is kind of a death knell for Rdb on VMS and can only hurt the   
   prospects of VMS more generally if someone tells VMS customers that   
   Oracle Cloud is preferred over the other cloud vendors.  Last I checked,   
   Oracle was a very distant fifth place among cloud vendors, with AWS   
   having 10 times the market share that Oracle has.   
      
   The whole point of the x86 port was to be able to run VMS on the same   
   platform people were already using for all their other systems, which   
   usually means KVM or VMWare in some mix of on-premises and in the cloud,   
   with the folks wanting bare metal x86 already having to make other plans   
   or run unsupported. You can get a VMWare instance in Azure, and AWS is   
   now based on KVM; I don't know if anyone has successfully booted VMS on   
   them, but that is the "hardware" that almost everyone already has these   
   days.   
      
   On a Venn diagram showing people already running Oracle cloud and people   
   possibly interested in running VMS on x86, the overlap will be very   
   small.  Add Rdb to the diagram and it may well be that the overlap   
   consists of the 20 customers who have already replied to Oracle.   
      
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