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   Dan Cross to clubley@remove_me.eisner.decus.org-   
   Re: Oracle (Rdb) on OpenVMS   
   15 Aug 25 13:58:39   
   
   From: cross@spitfire.i.gajendra.net   
      
   In article <107n9se$13rjm$3@dont-email.me>,   
   Simon Clubley   wrote:   
   >On 2025-08-14, Arne Vajhøj  wrote:   
   >>   
   >> Given that Oracle is a software company with a market cap over 600 B$,   
   >> then I would think they know something about software engineering.   
   >   
   >Size does not equal engineering skill.   
      
   This.  But in fact, Arne is right in that Oracle _does_ know a   
   thing or two about software engineering.  It's just that their   
   management doesn't, and doesn't look at things the way that a   
   software engineer does.   
      
   >Anything from Microsoft over the last 25 years.   
      
   Eh, I dunno; HyperV, Midori, C# (I guess both C# is older), Rust   
   adoption, WinDBG, etc, are all pretty cool.  Microsoft is flush   
   with fantastic engineers; .   
      
   >Anything from Intel.   
      
   Tofino was amazing.  But of course, they canceled it.   
      
   >x86 is a crap, power hungry architecture that   
   >should have been consigned to history. Intel just got very very lucky   
   >and we have all suffered since. For example, Motorola would have been   
   >a far better starting point.   
      
   It's always fun to speculate what might have been had IBM chosen   
   the 68k over the 8088 for the 5150.   
      
   Unfortunately, the 68k was a skunkworks project inside of Moto.   
   IBM had engineering samples of the 68k in Yorktown Heights   
   (remember: they had a deep relationship with Motorola at the   
   time), and IBM was very interested in it for the PC, but when   
   they went to meet about it, the Moto reps described it as just a   
   research project and were pushing the 6809 hard as the future   
   direction of their CPU efforts.  But the 8-bit 6809 was neither   
   feature nor price/performance competitive, even against the   
   8086, let alone the 68k, around which one could build a Real   
   Computer, so IBM went a different direction with Intel.   
      
   And the rest of us have been suffering since as a result.   
      
   	- Dan C.   
      
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