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   Dan Cross to arne@vajhoej.dk   
   Re: Oracle (Rdb) on OpenVMS   
   18 Aug 25 23:17:15   
   
   From: cross@spitfire.i.gajendra.net   
      
   In article <1080ba7$3dju4$1@dont-email.me>,   
   Arne Vajhøj   wrote:   
   >On 8/18/2025 6:31 PM, Dan Cross wrote:   
   >> In article <107r3h2$1vod3$1@dont-email.me>,   
   >> Arne Vajhøj   wrote:   
   >>> On 8/16/2025 6:46 PM, Waldek Hebisch wrote:   
   >>>> Arne Vajhøj  wrote:   
   >>>>> It would not make sense for Oracle to port if they expect   
   >>>>> customers to migrate away in a few years.   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>> And it would not make sense for customers to move to x86-64   
   >>>>> and migrate away in a few years.   
   >>>>   
   >>>> Why not?  Succesful platform migration may take a lot of time.   
   >>>> When migration is done in incremental way important part is   
   >>>> increasing portability of source code.  During that production   
   >>>> runs on existing system, in this case VMS.  Assuming that x86-64   
   >>>> part is succesful, that is VSI customers can easily move   
   >>>> software to x86-64 VMS, it make sense to use x86-64 as intermedite   
   >>>> step.  Namely, one has gain on hardware side, that is ability to   
   >>>> retire old hardware and run on new one.  And move to x86-64 can   
   >>>> test some aspects of migration, before it is fully done.   
   >>>   
   >>> If they were to migrate it would be lower cost to stay   
   >>> on Itanium and just do one migration instead of two. From   
   >>> VMS Itanium to VMS x86-64 may not require any code changes, but   
   >>> planning, project management, test etc. still make it expensive.   
   >>>   
   >>> Any incremental increase of code portability could just as   
   >>> well be done on Itanium.   
   >>   
   >> Well, except that Itanium hardware is becoming increasingly   
   >> unobtainium.   
   >   
   >If the plan is to migrate off VMS in let us say 5-8 years, then   
   >they would go to IslandCo and buy a bunch of spare servers and   
   >various spare parts and put it on the shelf.   
      
   I guess you didn't like the joke ("Itanium" is alliterative with   
   "unobtanium").  Oh well, it's been said that the pun is the   
   lowest form of humor, so perhaps I can't blame you.   
      
   	- Dan C.   
      
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