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   Johnny Billquist to All   
   Re: Binutils   
   05 Sep 25 15:08:09   
   
   From: bqt@softjar.se   
      
   On 2025-09-05 04:00, Lawrence D’Oliveiro wrote:   
   > On Thu, 4 Sep 2025 20:28:24 -0400, Arne Vajhøj wrote:   
   >   
   >> But it is not the use case VMS FTP was designed for.   
   >   
   > If you can’t even properly transfer a file to another VMS system, then   
   > what *was* it designed for?   
      
   ftp between two VMS systems can transfer arbitrary files correctly, if I   
   remember right. But it uses extra tricks for that to work, which are not   
   compatible with transferring to non-VMS systems.   
      
   The basic ftp spec have ASCII, which is supposed to always work, but is   
   only suitable for test-like files. And ftp can then transform then   
   to/from whatever format is suitable on each system, while over the   
   network they have a common, canonical form.   
      
   For binary files, ftp basically leaves everything undefined. Any system   
   can do whatever they want, and the end results is whatever. And then ftp   
   have some special modes that I think pretty much noone ever have   
   implemented. And beyond that, ftp implementations can extend the   
   protocol in any way they want to do extra things not defined by the specs.   
      
      Johnny   
      
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