From: gerard.calliet@pia-sofer.fr   
      
   Le 29/08/2025 à 17:01, Chris Townley a écrit :   
   > A new blog post by Darya   
   >   
   > https://vmssoftware.com/resources/blog/2025-08-29-openvms-vs-linux-cost-   
   > comparison/   
   >   
   > Interesting assumptions there...   
   First, great to a french guy to have to understand what FUD is about...   
   but i'm not sure I have understood :)   
      
   I really agree with everyone: no risk now, but how will be the future,   
   it seems not so good.   
      
   In France we have done a lot of work with VMSgenerations, because we   
   were thinking "there is a future for VMS, and we want to help for that".   
   Now, after about ten years of action, we are not so sure about the future.   
      
   We thought the VMS market would at least remain the same, because of the   
   VSI announces... it is has been shrinking all these years.   
      
   We thought something like an ecosystem revival will happen... and it is   
   yet very difficult to see VMS enthousiasts really fighting for VMS.   
      
   On my side I thought VMS could rebound as an ecosystem, and it has been   
   a reason to participate on VMSgenerations. And I analyze the way VSI did   
   act using a total different vision: it seems they act about VMS with a   
   sort of standard treatment for legacy applications.   
      
   I dreamed the way VSI could have act somehow as an orchestrator of a   
   distributed rebound: permitting sleeping resources to go back to action.   
      
   They have done the opposite: a very centralized approach, taking   
   everything yet existing inside (development, modernization, maintenance,   
   cloud deployment...). In the same time their relation with intermediate   
   sellers is bad; they don't need them. And I remember Sue Skonetski   
   saying at the 2014 bootcamp "no users club, no marketing".   
      
   It is not that they are bad guys. I think it is a business strategy   
   choice: you have a legacy domain, you get the maximum of it the time it   
   is living to help the last users to live.   
      
   Again on my opinion, this choice explain at least in part the continuing   
   shrinking of the market. And why? Just because of the way explained   
   here: a legacy system is a long term risk.   
      
   And again being not a good guy, I think the VMS community has not acted   
   as an active community.   
      
   Today I have to say I doubt about my "dreams". And perhaps the way VSI   
   is acting is more realistic.   
      
   But perhaps something could be thought about today, to open new way for   
   a rebound we are still waiting for.   
      
   I had this idea at the Malmö bootcamp. Camiel was "selling" the   
   strategy: no bare metal, at term only iSCSI on virtualization, cloud.   
   And he was saying "the time there are a changing - like Bob - and we   
   have to adapt". On my opinion, totally wrong - I was angry -.   
      
   But Camiel is right "the time there are a changing". What is the real   
   change? The real change is that a legacy OS, in a niche market, has been   
   able to not dying. Just because VMS is great? In part yes. But because   
   in our time the necessity of very long term systems, re-use of things is   
   becoming very important. And VMS can go with these necessities.   
      
   The point, since 2014, is that VSI - and us - did not take the time to   
   understand the specificity of VMS as an ecosystem, and what in our time   
   and its very new necessities is an opportunity for VMS.   
      
   If we are able to know who we are, we'll be able to speak about us. And   
   there will be a future for VMS if and only if it is seen as a new   
   opportunity in long term OS ecosystem, and so as an sustainable alternative.   
      
   Other condition: do it! Something new has to be learned by our community   
   - yes, yes, I know, a VMS professional, or DEC, or VSI have not to learn   
   anything, because we are already great -. The immense success of Linux   
   is due at least because Linux users think about them as active members   
   of their ecosystem. It seems VMS users act in a more classical supplier   
   customer way - and DECUS is forgotten -.   
      
   It has been these years a real great operation the decision of VSI of   
   redoing bootcamps. Something about a special ecosystem: our bootcamps. I   
   hope the next bootcamp in Portsmouth will be a great success, and, why   
   not, we'll see in it the bearth of an US VMSgenerations.   
      
   Constructing the future.   
      
   gcalliet   
      
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