From: gerard.calliet@pia-sofer.fr   
      
   Le 29/08/2025 à 21:18, Arne Vajhøj a écrit :   
   > On 8/29/2025 3:14 PM, Arne Vajhøj wrote:   
   >> On 8/29/2025 3:10 PM, Simon Clubley wrote:   
   >>> On 2025-08-29, Arne Vajhøj  wrote:   
   >>>> On 8/29/2025 2:44 PM, Simon Clubley wrote:   
   >>>>> If anyone still has it installed, does the really old GNAT 3.11/3.12p   
   >>>>> use ld or the VMS linker ? I know they used gas, but what about the   
   >>>>> final link ?   
   >>>>   
   >>>> I have Gnat 3.12p / GCC 2.8.1 installed.   
   >>>>   
   >>>> I think it uses LINK.   
   >>>>   
   >>>>    
   >>>> $ gnat make   
   >>>> List of available qualifiers and options   
   >>>>   
   >>>> GNAT MAKE file /qualifiers (includes COMPILE /qualifiers)   
   >>>>                                 
   Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â  gnatmake   
   >>>>      ...   
   >>>>      /LINKER_QUALIFIERS (switches for LINK)             
   -largs switches   
   >>>>      ...   
   >>>>    
   >>>>   
   >>>> It mentions LINK.   
   >>>>   
   >>>   
   >>> Interesting thanks. Does the "ld" binary exist in whatever the binutils   
   >>> executables directory is ?   
   >>>   
   >>> If it does, and you run it as a foreign command with "--help", what   
   >>> output do you get ?   
   >>   
   >> Nothing with ld.   
   >>   
   >> $ dir gnu:[bin]   
   >>   
   >> Directory GNU:[BIN]   
   >>   
   >> AS.EXE;10           ASISTANT.EXE;1      GCC.EX   
   1           GNAT.EXE;1   
   >> GNATBIND.EXE;1      GNATBL.EXE;1        GNATCHOP.EXE;2   
   >> GNATELIM.EXE;1   
   >> GNATFIND.EXE;1      GNATKR.EXE;1        GNATLBR.EXE;1   
   >> GNATLINK.EXE;1   
   >> GNATLS.EXE;1        GNATMAKE.EXE;1      GNATMEM.EXE;1   
   >> GNATPREP.EXE;1   
   >> GNATPSTA.EXE;1      GNATPSYS.EXE;1      GNATSTUB.EXE;1   
   >> GNATXREF.EXE;1   
   >> MAKE.EXE;260        OPENVMS7_1-GCC.EXE;1   
   >> SET_EXE.COM;11   
   >>   
   >> $ dir gnu:[bin]*ld*.*   
   >> %DIRECT-W-NOFILES, no files found   
   >   
   > $ link=="XXXX"   
   > $ link   
   > %DCL-W-IVVERB, unrecognized command verb - check validity and spelling   
   >   \XXXX\   
   > $ gnat make hello   
   > gcc -c hello.adb   
   > gnatbind -x hello.ali   
   > gnatlink hello.ali   
   > %DCL-W-IVVERB, unrecognized command verb - check validity and spelling   
   >   \XXXX\   
   > gnatmake: *** link failed.   
   >   
   > Arne   
   >   
   I'm very late on this discution.   
      
   I confirm that, for the Gnat Ada based on gcc 4.7 and binutils 2.23.1,   
   which we have rebuilt for VMS / Itanium with the help of Adalabs   
   (https://github.com/AdaLabs/gnat-vms), it was the VMS Linker which was   
   used, quote:   
   """We will build binutils only to use the as component. The ld component   
   will be built in gcc (above), as it is a wrapper to the VMS LINKER"""   
      
   Gérard   
      
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