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   =?UTF-8?Q?Arne_Vajh=C3=B8j?= to Waldek Hebisch   
   Re: Binutils   
   12 Sep 25 09:08:29   
   
   From: arne@vajhoej.dk   
      
   On 9/12/2025 8:03 AM, Waldek Hebisch wrote:   
   > Arne Vajhøj  wrote:   
   >> On 8/29/2025 1:50 PM, Waldek Hebisch wrote:   
   >>> Well, this is part of bigger rather poorly defined project.  ATM   
   >>> I trying to compile gcc-15.1.  I first build binutils, then I do   
   >>>   
   >>> ../gcc-15.1.0/configure --enable-languages=c,c++ --target=alpha-dec-vms   
   --prefix=/sklad/usr   
   >>> make -j 7 > mlogg 2>&1   
   >> I am a little curious and have a ton of questions.   
   >>   
   >> Maybe you can't disclose such information, but maybe you can.   
   >>   
   >> You are trying to get GCC 15 on Linux x86-64 to cross-compile   
   >> to VMS Alpha.   
   >>   
   >> Is this non-paid volunteer work or is it part of your job   
   >> with a commercial aspect?   
   >   
   > That is hobby work.   
      
   So no problem releasing all changes.   
      
   Most (maybe all) will of course still be GPL.   
      
   >> Are the builtin languages (C, C++, Fortran, Ada) the final   
   >> goal or do you just need them to verify everything and then   
   >> you need to add support for another language?   
   >   
   > I want to restore another program, for that plain C would be enough.   
   > I have no short/medium time plans to add GCC frontends beyond   
   > what already is in GCC tree.   
   >   
   >> If you get VMS Alpha working perfect would you then try with   
   >> VMS x86-64?   
   >   
   > Maybe.  At first glance supporting VMS x86-64 should be easy as   
   > x86-64 instruction set is supported quite well in gcc and object   
   > file format (ELF) has very good support too.  But there are   
   > proprietary changes/extentions to the objcet format and very   
   > little documentation about such changes (there is calling standard   
   > document).   
   >   
   >> If you get cross-compilation working prefect would you try   
   >> moving compiler to run on VMS?   
   >   
   > ATM talking about this is premature.  At some moment I will move   
   > to different things and that probably will be before any my attempt   
   > to natively run compilers.   
   There are other interesting stuff to try out.   
      
   The wife want the house painted.   
      
   Or whatever.   
      
   That is how it is.   
      
   Anyone really wanting any of this can start themselves.   
      
   Arne   
      
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