From: arne@vajhoej.dk   
      
   On 9/12/2025 8:14 AM, Simon Clubley wrote:   
   > On 2025-09-12, Waldek Hebisch  wrote:   
   >> Arne Vajhøj  wrote:   
   >>> If you get cross-compilation working prefect would you try   
   >>> moving compiler to run on VMS?   
   >>   
   >> ATM talking about this is premature.  At some moment I will move   
   >> to different things and that probably will be before any my attempt   
   >> to natively run compilers.   
   >   
   > If I had got that far, natively run compilers wasn't a major interest   
   > for me either.   
   >   
   > I've a lot of hobbyist experience with embedded boards/systems   
   > (including bringing up my own BSPs, board/MCU initialisation/startup   
   > code, etc) and I was tending to think of VMS as just another embedded   
   > device when doing this.   
   >   
   > IOW, do the development and building on Linux in a rich environment   
   > and then just push the final executables, etc, to the VMS system.   
      
   For historic reasons then many consider building on VMS to be   
   "the right way".   
      
   And I would like to point out that development environment on VMS   
   is not that bad.   
      
   Obviously way more options available on Linux and Windows, but I   
   think VMS is ok.   
      
   Lots of editors. VT: EDT, EVE, LSE, VIM, JED. X: EVE, LSE, JED, JEdit.   
   PC (transparent): VS Code (VMS IDE).   
      
   Basic tooling. DECset, GNV, VSI provided open source, DECUS tapes.   
      
   I believe John Malmberg got builds on VMS running under Jenkins.   
      
   Arne   
      
   --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05   
    * Origin: you cannot sedate... all the things you hate (1:229/2)