From: cross@spitfire.i.gajendra.net   
      
   In article <68dfc38f$0$673$14726298@news.sunsite.dk>,   
   Arne Vajhøj   wrote:   
   >On 10/3/2025 8:12 AM, Simon Clubley wrote:   
   >> On 2025-10-02, Dan Cross  wrote:   
   >>> In article ,   
   >>> David Goodwin   wrote:   
   >>>> Set top boxes and routers were not the target market for Windows in the   
   >>>> 90s, and they are clearly not a market Microsoft is interested in   
   >>>> pursuing today.   
   >>>   
   >>> Moreover, 99.9% of those MIPS CPUs that are outselling x86 are   
   >>> embedded microcontrollers that just happen to use the MIPS   
   >>> instruction set.  If they run any OS at all, it's way more than   
   >>> likely to be some kind of RTOS.   
   >>   
   >> Here is one example at the lower end (which is also available in hobbyist   
   >> friendly packaging):   
   >>   
   >> https://uk.farnell.com/microchip/pic32mx250f128b-i-sp/mcu-32b   
   t-pic32-40mhz-spdip-28/dp/2097773   
   >   
   >I think this part of the spec illustrate the target market:   
   >   
   >   
   >MIPS32® M4K® core with MIPS16e® mode for up to 40% smaller code size   
   >   
   >   
   >Switching to 16 bit mode to reduce application size is not where   
   >Microsoft is with Windows today.   
      
   a) MSFT isn't running Windows on that core, but Linux isn't   
   running on it, either.   
      
   b) MIPS16e is to MIPS 32 as Thumb or Thumb-2 is to ARM, or as   
   the RISC-V compressed ISA is to RISC-V.   
      
   c) Windows on ARM does use Thumb-2:   
   https://devblogs.microsoft.com/oldnewthing/20210531-00/?p=105265   
      
   	- Dan C.   
      
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