From: arne@vajhoej.dk   
      
   On 10/11/2025 10:13 AM, John Dallman wrote:   
   > In article <10cdflq$5c0$2@reader2.panix.com>,   
   > cross@spitfire.i.gajendra.net (Dan Cross) wrote:   
   >> I think also the focus shifted dramatically once Java came onto   
   >> the scene; Sun seemed to move away from its traditional computer   
   >> business in order to focus more full on java and its ecosystem.   
   >   
   > They tried that on us, but were deeply unconvincing.   
   >   
   > They were expecting us to be impressed that they'd done JNI wrappers of   
   > about ten functions from our 500+ function API. We said "Presumably you   
   > have tools to generate this stuff automatically?" and they didn't   
   > understand what we were talking about.   
      
   You may have been lucky.   
      
   :-)   
      
   The concept of:   
      
   Java code---(millions of low level function calls via JNI)--->native code   
      
   is not good.   
      
   Java code---(thousands of high level service calls via JNI)--->native code   
      
   may work OK.   
      
   Moving data between managed code and unmanaged code is in general   
   tricky and cost a lot of CPU cycles.   
      
   And Java JNI is not even a good implementation of that.   
      
   .NET did much better with InteropServices/DllImport and C++ CLI.   
      
   Arne   
      
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