From: arne@vajhoej.dk   
      
   On 10/13/2025 6:41 AM, David Wade wrote:   
   > On 13/10/2025 11:57, Chris Townley wrote:   
   >> On 13/10/2025 02:07, Arne Vajhøj wrote:   
   >>> Seeing a good long term business for selling proprietary Unix   
   >>> for x86-64 require a very good imagination.   
   >>   
   >> Red Hat do well out of it, although not quite propriety, not quite   
   >> open source...   
   >>   
   > RedHat have worked hard to make it impossible to use their Linux without   
   > paying. In addition they do well because in order to comply with many   
   > security policies you need supported software.   
   >   
   > So unless you are the French Gendarmerie, who have their own Linux   
   > Distro, you need to pay RedHat for support. Its not cheap   
      
   RHEL product management is getting squeezed. The IBM bean counters   
   want higher profit. And sale is dropping due to companies moving   
   their Linux workload from on-prem RHEL to cloud non-RHEL. So they   
   have done some "crazy" stuff to make it harder for RHEL clones.   
      
   But RHEL clones still exist. Rocky, Alma, Oracle, Amazon etc..   
   Redhat's changes may have reduced compatibility from 100%   
   to 99.95%, but my impression is that the industry in general   
   consider the compatibility acceptable.   
      
   Support is easy. If you need support you pay. Redhat is still   
   an obvious choice in that case. But few make that choice, because   
   most only provide containers and let the cloud vendor provide   
   the host Linux. And they don't want to pay Redhat.   
      
   Arne   
      
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