From: arne@vajhoej.dk   
      
   On 10/13/2025 5:53 PM, Chris Townley wrote:   
   > On 13/10/2025 21:38, Arne Vajhøj wrote:   
   >> On 10/13/2025 6:41 AM, David Wade wrote:   
   >>> On 13/10/2025 11:57, Chris Townley wrote:   
   >>>> On 13/10/2025 02:07, Arne Vajhøj wrote:   
   >>>>> Seeing a good long term business for selling proprietary Unix   
   >>>>> for x86-64 require a very good imagination.   
   >>>>   
   >>>> Red Hat do well out of it, although not quite propriety, not quite   
   >>>> open source...   
   >>>>   
   >>> RedHat have worked hard to make it impossible to use their Linux   
   >>> without paying. In addition they do well because in order to comply   
   >>> with many security policies you need supported software.   
   >>>   
   >>> So unless you are the French Gendarmerie, who have their own Linux   
   >>> Distro, you need to pay RedHat for support. Its not cheap   
   >>   
   >> RHEL product management is getting squeezed. The IBM bean counters   
   >> want higher profit. And sale is dropping due to companies moving   
   >> their Linux workload from on-prem RHEL to cloud non-RHEL. So they   
   >> have done some "crazy" stuff to make it harder for RHEL clones.   
   >>   
   >> But RHEL clones still exist. Rocky, Alma, Oracle, Amazon etc..   
   >> Redhat's changes may have reduced compatibility from 100%   
   >> to 99.95%, but my impression is that the industry in general   
   >> consider the compatibility acceptable.   
   >>   
   >> Support is easy. If you need support you pay. Redhat is still   
   >> an obvious choice in that case. But few make that choice, because   
   >> most only provide containers and let the cloud vendor provide   
   >> the host Linux. And they don't want to pay Redhat.   
   >   
   > My former company would only use RHEL   
      
   On-prem I assume?   
      
   Because paying the cloud vendor for VM's, installing   
   RHEL and Kubernetes (in form of Openshift for a Redhat   
   shop) instead of just using EKS/AKS/GKE would be   
   "unusual".   
      
   Arne   
      
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