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   Chris Townley to All   
   Re: VMS previous DEC/CPQ/HP[E] decisions   
   14 Oct 25 00:58:18   
   
   From: news@cct-net.co.uk   
      
   On 14/10/2025 00:23, Arne Vajhøj wrote:   
   > On 10/13/2025 5:53 PM, Chris Townley wrote:   
   >> On 13/10/2025 21:38, Arne Vajhøj wrote:   
   >>> On 10/13/2025 6:41 AM, David Wade wrote:   
   >>>> On 13/10/2025 11:57, Chris Townley wrote:   
   >>>>> On 13/10/2025 02:07, Arne Vajhøj wrote:   
   >>>>>> Seeing a good long term business for selling proprietary Unix   
   >>>>>> for x86-64 require a very good imagination.   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>> Red Hat do well out of it, although not quite propriety, not quite   
   >>>>> open source...   
   >>>>>   
   >>>> RedHat have worked hard to make it impossible to use their Linux   
   >>>> without paying. In addition they do well because in order to comply   
   >>>> with many security policies you need supported software.   
   >>>>   
   >>>> So unless you are the French Gendarmerie, who have their own Linux   
   >>>> Distro, you need to pay RedHat for support. Its not cheap   
   >>>   
   >>> RHEL product management is getting squeezed. The IBM bean counters   
   >>> want higher profit. And sale is dropping due to companies moving   
   >>> their Linux workload from on-prem RHEL to cloud non-RHEL. So they   
   >>> have done some "crazy" stuff to make it harder for RHEL clones.   
   >>>   
   >>> But RHEL clones still exist. Rocky, Alma, Oracle, Amazon etc..   
   >>> Redhat's changes may have reduced compatibility from 100%   
   >>> to 99.95%, but my impression is that the industry in general   
   >>> consider the compatibility acceptable.   
   >>>   
   >>> Support is easy. If you need support you pay. Redhat is still   
   >>> an obvious choice in that case. But few make that choice, because   
   >>> most only provide containers and let the cloud vendor provide   
   >>> the host Linux. And they don't want to pay Redhat.   
   >>   
   >> My former company would only use RHEL   
   >   
   > On-prem I assume?   
   >   
   > Because paying the cloud vendor for VM's, installing   
   > RHEL and Kubernetes (in form of Openshift for a Redhat   
   > shop) instead of just using EKS/AKS/GKE would be   
   > "unusual".   
      
   Correct - that rather beat the cloud!   
      
      
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   Chris   
      
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