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|    Chris Townley to All    |
|    Re: VMS previous DEC/CPQ/HP[E] decisions    |
|    14 Oct 25 00:58:18    |
      From: news@cct-net.co.uk              On 14/10/2025 00:23, Arne Vajhøj wrote:       > On 10/13/2025 5:53 PM, Chris Townley wrote:       >> On 13/10/2025 21:38, Arne Vajhøj wrote:       >>> On 10/13/2025 6:41 AM, David Wade wrote:       >>>> On 13/10/2025 11:57, Chris Townley wrote:       >>>>> On 13/10/2025 02:07, Arne Vajhøj wrote:       >>>>>> Seeing a good long term business for selling proprietary Unix       >>>>>> for x86-64 require a very good imagination.       >>>>>       >>>>> Red Hat do well out of it, although not quite propriety, not quite       >>>>> open source...       >>>>>       >>>> RedHat have worked hard to make it impossible to use their Linux       >>>> without paying. In addition they do well because in order to comply       >>>> with many security policies you need supported software.       >>>>       >>>> So unless you are the French Gendarmerie, who have their own Linux       >>>> Distro, you need to pay RedHat for support. Its not cheap       >>>       >>> RHEL product management is getting squeezed. The IBM bean counters       >>> want higher profit. And sale is dropping due to companies moving       >>> their Linux workload from on-prem RHEL to cloud non-RHEL. So they       >>> have done some "crazy" stuff to make it harder for RHEL clones.       >>>       >>> But RHEL clones still exist. Rocky, Alma, Oracle, Amazon etc..       >>> Redhat's changes may have reduced compatibility from 100%       >>> to 99.95%, but my impression is that the industry in general       >>> consider the compatibility acceptable.       >>>       >>> Support is easy. If you need support you pay. Redhat is still       >>> an obvious choice in that case. But few make that choice, because       >>> most only provide containers and let the cloud vendor provide       >>> the host Linux. And they don't want to pay Redhat.       >>       >> My former company would only use RHEL       >       > On-prem I assume?       >       > Because paying the cloud vendor for VM's, installing       > RHEL and Kubernetes (in form of Openshift for a Redhat       > shop) instead of just using EKS/AKS/GKE would be       > "unusual".              Correct - that rather beat the cloud!                     --       Chris              --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05        * Origin: you cannot sedate... all the things you hate (1:229/2)    |
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