From: craigberry@nospam.mac.com   
      
   On 10/15/25 7:16 AM, Dan Cross wrote:   
   > In article <10cmovf$3a740$1@dont-email.me>,   
   > Arne Vajhøj   wrote:   
   >> On 10/13/2025 10:03 PM, Lawrence D’Oliveiro wrote:   
   >>> On Mon, 13 Oct 2025 21:20:43 -0400, Arne Vajhøj wrote:   
   >>>> On 10/13/2025 8:20 PM, Lawrence D’Oliveiro wrote:   
   >>>>> On Mon, 13 Oct 2025 19:26:56 -0400, Arne Vajhøj wrote:   
   >>>>>> Enterprises with a need to document support can not just hire a   
   >>>>>> random consultant when the need arrive.   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>> If something is mission-critical and core to their entire business,   
   >>>>> they want a staff they can rely on, completely, to manage that   
   >>>>> properly.   
   >>>>   
   >>>> Few/no CIO's want to support the hundreds of millions of lines   
   >>>> of open source code their business rely on themselves.   
   >>>   
   >>> The whole point of having all that code is that they didn’t need to write   
   >>> it themselves.   
   >>   
   >> Yes. But they want free beer more than free speech.   
   >>   
   >>> You have to take responsibility for your own business, don’t you?   
   >>   
   >> They don't want to write or maintain their own OS.   
   >>   
   >> They don't want to write or maintain their own platform   
   >> software (web/app servers, database servers, message queue   
   >> servers, cache servers etc.).   
   >>   
   >> They don't want to write or maintain their own tools   
   >> (compilers, build tools, IDE's, source control, unit   
   >> test frameworks etc.).   
   >>   
   >> None of that stuff is their business.   
   >>   
   >> They want to focus on their business the applications   
   >> that help them produce and sell whatever products   
   >> or services.   
   >   
   > Every single one of the FAANG companies do all of those things.   
      
   In other words, hardly anyone.   
      
   > At Google, we used to joke that, "not only does Google reinvent   
   > the wheel, we vulcanize the rubber for the tires."  Spanner,   
   > Piper/Fig/Jujutsu, Prodkernel/ChromeOS/Android, CitC, gunit, Go   
   > (not to mention the work on LLVM/Clang), Blaze/Bazel/Skylark,   
   > etc, are all examples of the things you mentioned above.  And   
   > that's not even to mention all the custom hardware.   
   >   
   > For organizations working at hyperscale, there comes a point   
   > where the off-the-shelf solutions simply cannot scale to meet   
   > the load you're putting on them.   
   >   
   > At that point, you have no choice but to do it yourself.   
   You're kinda going in circles here by arguing that very big companies   
   whose business is to make their own technology need to make their own   
   technology.  I believe Arne's point was the fairly obvious one that a   
   retail chain or a hospital chain does not need to and cannot afford to   
   maintain, for example, their own operating system.   
      
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